found this might have some useful info for everyone. i havent read it all yet tho' thought i would share Biology of Kundalini - Hormones
I have tried retain twice, and really liked it.
LX did not do much for me..nothing that I could notice anyway. Retain..I have had to lower the dose after 2 weeks because all of my joints were aching. My jaw tendons were sore to the point I could hardly open my mouth (Rebound Reloaded may have also contributed to this phenom). It has provided serious damage control in PCT and I have probably lost a little fat despite keeping calories high.
I have not used LX, but have used retain and i think its the s***.
what about cissus?
Cissus is a cortisol blocker?? I didn't knew that one..Originally Posted by skull
A lot of herbs have the ability to lower cortisol levels
Not sure what the specific mechanisms are, or how suppressive they are
Cissus focuses more on glucocorticoids from what I have read.
works for me during PCT, I use 4 caps a day.
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Re: Cissus contains anabolic steroidal compounds
Originally Posted by lifted
Yes, I must've misread that concerning hairloss. Nandi's advice is always welcomed, thx.
Since the plant sterols are only idnetified by their chemical formulas, we have no way of knowing how strongly they bind to the AR. But this issue is likely muted by the overall poor bioavailability of plant sterols in general. While these compounds may contribute a minor anabolic (and suppressive) effect, the primary mode of action of Cissus is blocking the catabolic action of cortisol.
I have had the best luck with Retain.
I participated in the lean extreme bloodwork test a while back....
Lean Xtreme Bloodwork
had final blood work drawn last Monday and will send them along to Robboe once I get them this week. Bottom line is... the results speak for themselves. I was very happy with the results of LX. Only problem is.... I have nothing to compare it too...... Nevertheless, I will continue to use LX in the future because I know it works for me.
i would have to say retain i used it during pct and it worked well
Adaptogens like the ones that Sinner mentioned earlier help one cope with stress and mellow you out, less stress means less cortisol. Cortisol is, after all the stress hormone.
LX has worked very well for me...
I'd like to see bloodwork from the others. we have seen what LX does.
for those that answered other, could you specify what your "other" is?
-----cissus[ best cortisol blocker ever]Originally Posted by pistonpump