What ATD based supplement did you find the best?

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  1. I agree with you guys to a point. I am beginning to wonder if we should stick with some good ol' 6-oxo or something more mild for us guys who love our Nolva and leave the ATD's for people who for some odd reason dont want to run Nolva.

    Nolva v. ATD

    sorry that was lame, but yeah just cause something stronger comes out doesnt mean we all have to jump on it. Pretty soon they'll be marketing that ATD isn't any good and they will come out with some super-ATD which is absolutely insane. I dont know what to think anymore.....


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
    That study is retardedly meaningless for our use.

    How much does an average test rat weigh? a half pound? 15mgs into a half pound animal is the equivalent of 6 grams into a 200 pound man.

    They say "Thus, an alternative explanation for the inhibitory effects of ATD on male sexual behavior is that ATD prevents T from binding to androgen receptors.

    I say an alternative explanation is that they are using rats, an animal with a very different endocrine response to androgens than humans, and chose to inject an insanley high amount of ATD, the end result is a study that has no semblance to the reality of usual human oral dosing. They may be right, but not because of the flawed methods of that study, study pig response to an appropriate oral dose and get back to us, doctoral dumbasses.
    I totaly agree .I am experimenting different ATD supps not for PCT but for kind of an OTC HRT I already have an opinion on UHer and now am using a pure ATD sup.I think we have to find the right dosage.Right now am running 25gm twice a week.I know of a few trying this also maybe we sould make a seperate thead and keep updated?
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  3. I think if it were blocking AR aggressively then I would have just gained 20 pounds while using it and a legal cycle.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    I think if it were blocking AR aggressively then I would have just gained 20 pounds while using it and a legal cycle.
    Yea but your using hotter right? From my ex with that[and its right up] it seems to be more focused on the brain then total body not realy sure yet but I think were going to find its much weaker than pure ATD and it only has 18grms compared to 25grams pure ATD

  5. It's either that or these forms of ATD represent a prohormone unto themselves. People seem to gain strength and even size when using them for PCT...and that's suspicious IMO.

    I agree that the jury is still definitely out on ATD and it's role in PCt et al. Anecdotally though, it has worked well for me and I will continue to use it until I see some reason not to.

    I'll be swtiching to regular ATD(everyone was out of UHer) in a week or so and will report any observable differences between it and UHer.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    I'll be swtiching to regular ATD(everyone was out of UHer) in a week or so and will report any observable differences between it and UHer.
    Probably won't notice any difference. I didn't. I had my best PCT using straight Nolva. ATD worked well for me too though, besides the nasty acne. Next PCT will be a combo of both.

  7. It's either that or these forms of ATD represent a prohormone unto themselves. People seem to gain strength and even size when using them for PCT...and that's suspicious IMO.
    That exactly what I thought.It was very strange why I never got dry joints on hotter.I had lots of strength ,felt a little bloated, not what I expected from an AI

  8. Quote Originally Posted by BHERTZ
    Pretty soon they'll be marketing that ATD isn't any good and they will come out with some super-ATD which is absolutely insane. I dont know what to think anymore.....
    Rebound reloaded!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Kris4153
    Rebound reloaded!
    yea anyone know whats in this stuff?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    It's either that or these forms of ATD represent a prohormone unto themselves. People seem to gain strength and even size when using them for PCT...and that's suspicious IMO.

    I'll be swtiching to regular ATD(everyone was out of UHer) in a week or so and will report any observable differences between it and UHer.
    On your first point, I've seen some speculation on other boards with some claiming that UHer is exactly that.

    As to UHer being sold out, AX has lixcensed it and sells the same formula as a product called "PCT." http://anabolicxtreme.com/store/pct.html

  11. Quote Originally Posted by natedogg
    I have tried Rebound XT and Ultra Hotter as part of a PCT regime. The difference between the two was nil. Same strength increase, same acne. My conclusion, find the cheapest ATD possible and buy that. I think Inhibit-E by SNS is the cheapest that I know of.
    Here is the HPLC results on Inhibit-E for anyone interested that may not have seen it in our subforum.
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    SNS and Competitive Edge Labs Black Friday Sales:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/serio...ml#post5897056

  12. That's exactly why I purchased it. High quality for the best price. Can't beat that.
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