Poll: Best stack for fat loss?

ALRI Stack VS EC Stack

  1. New Member
    Goffio69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Age
    30
    Posts
    116
    Rep Power
    174
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    93.26%

    Question ALRI Stack VS EC Stack


    If money was not an issue, which stack would you choose for fat loss?

    EC Stack:
    sesathin
    glucophase-xr
    flax oil
    super epa
    ephedrine hcl
    caffeine

    ALRI Stack:
    try-lean system
    thyrogen-x

  2. Banned
    Brent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    939
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    23
    Lv. Percent
    75.4%

    Since when does an EC stack include all of those?
  3. New Member
    evan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Age
    33
    Posts
    258
    Rep Power
    258
    Level
    13
    Lv. Percent
    81.7%

    While both of these stacks an be used for fat loss this is really an apples and oranges omparison.

    Long term fat prevention and heallth benefits and going from average to ripped over a long period of time, whike eating a near(slightly below) iso-caloric diet stack 1

    going from ripped to diced and suffering through minor irritaion of sides and major irritations of severe caloric stak 2

    To put it into another prespetive I would choose 2 in a sec, but would put a freind trying to get into shape onto stack1
    •   
       

  4. Hot Italian Goldmember
    Syr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Age
    38
    Posts
    2,124
    Rep Power
    1192
    Level
    33
    Lv. Percent
    80.81%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    Neither. I would use:
    + Albuterol (or topical Clen)
    + TTA
    + some mild thyroid booster (forskolin being the most effective and safe).
  5. Banned
    oswizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Age
    33
    Posts
    472
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    18
    Lv. Percent
    19.32%

    whats TTA?
  6. Advanced Member
    propho's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  230 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Age
    34
    Posts
    997
    Rep Power
    8147
    Level
    24
    Lv. Percent
    82.09%

    tetra something.. it's the main ingredient in Melting Point
  7. Registered User
    Max32's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  270 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Age
    34
    Posts
    1,063
    Rep Power
    1292
    Level
    25
    Lv. Percent
    57.67%
    Achievements Posting Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by propho
    tetra something.. it's the main ingredient in Melting Point
    Which makes me feel like absolute ass
  8. Hot Italian Goldmember
    Syr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Age
    38
    Posts
    2,124
    Rep Power
    1192
    Level
    33
    Lv. Percent
    80.81%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Max32
    Which makes me feel like absolute ass
    Cramps or other things?

    Anyway if u can stand it, TTA are damn effective.
  9. Unbreakable_One's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Age
    31
    Posts
    62
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    7
    Lv. Percent
    56.35%

    I can't find that tta anywhere I looked up mp and it didn't list that...could you buy that in bulk? Or anyone know of a good supp in bulk for waight loss? Ohh and I would do the second stack.
  10. Board Sponsor
    Apowerz6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Age
    35
    Posts
    2,106
    Rep Power
    1167
    Level
    33
    Lv. Percent
    66.14%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    TTA in bulk try custom, if you want it capped try Melting Point if you want with other fats try Lipid FX
  11. Unbreakable_One's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Age
    31
    Posts
    62
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    7
    Lv. Percent
    56.35%

    ohh thanx man the bulk is nice..I'ma buy all the bulk supps for fat loss thanx..my next cutting cyle is gonna be killa..
  12. Registered User
    CHAPS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Age
    28
    Posts
    4,380
    Rep Power
    2869
    Level
    45
    Lv. Percent
    55.04%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    Clen,T3 and Glucophage for me thanx, but i will be trying Sesamin and Melting point soon.
  13. New Member
    The Godfather's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    121
    Rep Power
    177
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    60.7%

    The EC stack (which of course is just ephedrine and caffeine) is the most proven and one of the cheapest options when it comes to the fat burning. You can go up one step by choosing albuterol or clen for better results but more sides and a shorter cycle.

    The ALRI feeedback has not been great with people complaining about not being able to sleep that well as the hyperdrive kept them up and the lean dreams didn't do enough to get them to sleep. Also thyrogen didn't get the greatest of reviews.

    I would personally say go for either EC/albuterol/clen and if you want something above that for fat burning and don't mind a bit of possible lethargy or cramping then go for a TTA-based product. If appetite control isn't usually a problem for you then go for Melting Point otherwise if it is go for LipidFX as that has less TTA but quite good (looking at feedback) appetite suppressants.

    The final possiiblity you may want to try is the Omega Beta Fat Incineration product instead of the other two TTA products as I do think there is the possibility of quite good synergy there but there hasn't been any real world feedback on it yet so that's a bit untested.
  14. New Member
    robster11's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    50
    Rep Power
    139
    Level
    6
    Lv. Percent
    53.27%

    What dosage would you do for the EC stack? and how many times a day?
  15. New Member
    The Godfather's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    121
    Rep Power
    177
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    60.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by robster11
    What dosage would you do for the EC stack? and how many times a day?
    It of course depends on your tolerance but I would recommend you first start at a half dosage of 12.5mg/100mg (E+C) and see how that affects you and assuming you are fine with that double it and work your way up to 2-3x/day of that dosage.
  16. New Member
    robster11's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    50
    Rep Power
    139
    Level
    6
    Lv. Percent
    53.27%

    Quote Originally Posted by The Godfather
    It of course depends on your tolerance but I would recommend you first start at a half dosage of 12.5mg/100mg (E+C) and see how that affects you and assuming you are fine with that double it and work your way up to 2-3x/day of that dosage.

    perfect. thanks for the help
  17. Board Sponsor
    bigswole30's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    503
    Rep Power
    187905
    Level
    25
    Lv. Percent
    62.01%

    For what it is worth I am currently on Hyperdrive(1cap w/ breakfast) Thyrogen-X(1 cap x 3 per day) and Lean Dreams(3 caps b4 bed). My diet is pretty good 70% of the time, but my weight training is limited to circuit training with minimum weight and cardio. In the past 4 weeks I have dropped about 3-4% bodyfat without sacrificing much muscle if any. The only thing that has leaned me out faster was TREN and I was on a precontest diet at the time. In no way am I saying this is better than clenbuterol, albuterol, or whatever people are using today, but it has been as good if not better than any OTC fat burning stack I have used. My only complaint would be constant thirst and insomnia on the Hyperdrive..
  18. New Member
    bruno's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    3
    Rep Power
    107
    Level
    2
    Lv. Percent
    4%

    I took ECY stack for about 10 days before I noticed that my finger tips sometimes gets numb. Also, my heart was taking a beating from this stack.


    I stopped and am on day 7 of Hyperdrive. Hyperdrive is superior for both appetite and sleep surpression. I am still on one pill a -day.
  19. New Member
    McBurly's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  235 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Age
    31
    Posts
    497
    Rep Power
    124547
    Level
    23
    Lv. Percent
    38.9%

    Quote Originally Posted by oswizzle
    whats TTA?
    tetradecyl thioacetic acid
  20. Registered User
    BigP0ppa3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Age
    39
    Posts
    269
    Rep Power
    254
    Level
    15
    Lv. Percent
    54.14%

    I think I remember reading that Melting Point (TTA) and sesamin cancelled each other out or something like that. I did a search but couldnt find what I was looking for exactly but I think it's out there.

    BP
  21. New Member
    McBurly's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  235 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Age
    31
    Posts
    497
    Rep Power
    124547
    Level
    23
    Lv. Percent
    38.9%

    Quote Originally Posted by BigP0ppa3
    I think I remember reading that Melting Point (TTA) and sesamin cancelled each other out or something like that. I did a search but couldnt find what I was looking for exactly but I think it's out there.

    BP
    Designer Supps said that there might be some kind of synergy if the two were combined. However the extremely painful cramps from the combo blows donky balls. I know from experience.
  22. New Member
    The Godfather's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    121
    Rep Power
    177
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    60.7%

    WEll the reason you had problems is that you combined Ephedrine with Yohimbine which is not recommended unless you are very well experienced with both seperately. E+Y will basically just cause too much stimulation and you will get bad side ffects.
  23. New Member
    The Godfather's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    121
    Rep Power
    177
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    60.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by BigP0ppa3
    I think I remember reading that Melting Point (TTA) and sesamin cancelled each other out or something like that. I did a search but couldnt find what I was looking for exactly but I think it's out there.

    BP
    They don't cancel each other out but they do increase the side effects significantly and so the reocmmendation is to take half doses of both if you want to combine them and see how your body copes with it.

    They both share one common mechanism which is ppar-alpha agonism so in that respect there could be some synergestic or additive effects between the two.
  24. New Member
    bruno's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    3
    Rep Power
    107
    Level
    2
    Lv. Percent
    4%

    Quote Originally Posted by The Godfather
    WEll the reason you had problems is that you combined Ephedrine with Yohimbine which is not recommended unless you are very well experienced with both seperately. E+Y will basically just cause too much stimulation and you will get bad side ffects.
    What are your thoughts on hyperdrive + ec stack?
  25. New Member
    The Godfather's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    121
    Rep Power
    177
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    60.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by bruno
    What are your thoughts on hyperdrive + ec stack?
    Unless you are a very experienced stimulant user I would not recommend it as it would be very stimualting. It is likely to be more overly stimulating than ECY. Personally I would say that if fat loss is your main goal then the EC stack is going to be better. It is well proven to increase fat loss and help preserve LBM. Hyperdrive may possibly be a stronger energy stimulant (not sure myself) or it may be a better appetite suppressant so either of those are what you are looking for then go for Hyperdrive but if you want aproven diet aid then go for EC.
  26. Senior Member
    Jstrong20's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    1,385
    Rep Power
    215266
    Level
    33
    Lv. Percent
    57.49%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    venom by itself works better than eca does for me. Don't get me wrong though as ECA has always worked great for me. If I was going to thow something else into the mix it would probably be lean extreme or reduce for cortisol suppression. I use either at 4 caps ed and seem to always lean out and get some nice vascularity. Glucophase is also awesome at 2 caps 3 times ed. I would probably run venom for 4-6 weeks starting at 1 cap and working up to 3 ed and then switch to the nha stack + glucophase for 4-6 weeks.
  27. Senior Member
    MakaveliThaDon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    2,781
    Rep Power
    5918
    Level
    37
    Lv. Percent
    88.85%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by CHAPS
    Clen,T3 and Glucophage for me thanx, but i will be trying Sesamin and Melting point soon.

    I 2nd this, although i've never ran the glucophage with it. But the only compounds I ever use and need to cut these days is clen/t3, that along with a sound diet and cardio NEVER fails.
  28. New Member
    addijhaq's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    111
    Rep Power
    165
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    26.98%

    what about stacking amp with tta?

    if tta causes hunger, amp kills appetite (if taken on an empty stomach) or will they counter eachother?

    same question with amp and e/c, since amp's key substance is somewhat of a mystery, or at least to me... i've heard it's similar to ephedra and coke as it works on norepinephrine.

    just wondering cuz i've used both, 3 caps of amp in the morning w/out food. 3 hours later i ran 4 miles & worked out, immediately after the workout, which was another hour and a half later, i took low dose of ephedra diet cpd, normally when taking ephedra i feel the effects of tight chest increased heart rate... but none of this was present when i took amp first in the morning.. appetite was still suppressed throughout the day too.

    and finally, what about amp + albuterol?
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. PHs vs EC stack
    By Joregorn in forum Supplements
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 11-01-2012, 09:16 AM
  2. natabolic stack vs. swole stack
    By tbarrows in forum Supplements
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 11-15-2010, 09:31 PM
  3. Arrogantly Anabolic Stack vs. Trifecta Stack
    By rageofscar in forum LG Sciences
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 02-11-2010, 09:37 PM
  4. Arrogantly Anabolic Stack vs. Trifecta Stack
    By rageofscar in forum Supplements
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 02-04-2010, 10:28 PM
  5. Asteroid Stack vs. Trinity Stack
    By jwgrate12 in forum Supplements
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 08-06-2009, 11:47 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in