movin-iron
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Ok so here's the deal. I did a four week, somewhat harsh, SD cycle 20/30/40/30. Judging by the 'raisin factor' I was shut down pretty hard by then. Going on the general information on the board it seemed, by information posted at that time, that SD recovery was nowhere near as bad as M1T and nolva alone should do it.
So for Nolva I did 40/20/20 starting the last two days of my SD cycle. About half way into week 2 of pct the boys were back to normal size, strength was still the same as on cycle and all seemed well.
So this is what seems to have happened. In the last week of my cycle I was maxing at about a 315 bench. This stayed the same throughout PCT, but on my first chest workout following PCT (about 4 days after PCT ended) I could barely max at 280. I just wrote it off to a bad workout day, low energy, whatever, we all have those days. Unfortunately as time went on it proved to not simply be a bad workout, I had indeed lost a GREAT DEAL of strength. I doubt I could bench the 280 max now.
It seems quite obvious that my test levels were still not back and I was most likely in a great estrogen surplus. This was quite a surprise to me given what I had read about SD.
Given this it seems a more intense PCT should be required for me. I could always go the Nolva/6-oxo or Nolva/Clomid/6-oxo route but that is a LOT of dough to lay out for PCT when compared to other products.
What is the general opinion of a Nolva/HCG PCT running Nolva at 40/20/20/20 and the HCG for the first three weeks of that? I know from what I have read it would seem that HCG may be overkill for a SD PCT but judging from what I have experianced does it seem to make sense?
So for Nolva I did 40/20/20 starting the last two days of my SD cycle. About half way into week 2 of pct the boys were back to normal size, strength was still the same as on cycle and all seemed well.
So this is what seems to have happened. In the last week of my cycle I was maxing at about a 315 bench. This stayed the same throughout PCT, but on my first chest workout following PCT (about 4 days after PCT ended) I could barely max at 280. I just wrote it off to a bad workout day, low energy, whatever, we all have those days. Unfortunately as time went on it proved to not simply be a bad workout, I had indeed lost a GREAT DEAL of strength. I doubt I could bench the 280 max now.
It seems quite obvious that my test levels were still not back and I was most likely in a great estrogen surplus. This was quite a surprise to me given what I had read about SD.
Given this it seems a more intense PCT should be required for me. I could always go the Nolva/6-oxo or Nolva/Clomid/6-oxo route but that is a LOT of dough to lay out for PCT when compared to other products.
What is the general opinion of a Nolva/HCG PCT running Nolva at 40/20/20/20 and the HCG for the first three weeks of that? I know from what I have read it would seem that HCG may be overkill for a SD PCT but judging from what I have experianced does it seem to make sense?