x-factor/adonis-x question?

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  1. x-factor/adonis-x question?


    I got a hold of some adonis x by syntrax. It has the same ingredient as x-factor. My question is the expiration date says Oct 2005; so right now will it still be good enough for a cycle if I'm starting it within the next few days?
    They are well sealed and look fine.

    Let me know as I'm know sure to how long arachidonic acid is good for and if it will be effective.

    cheers


  2. I think you would be better suited to ask the manufacturer...

    http://syntrax.com/

    1-888-321-2348
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  3. just called and left a message , hope they call me back soon. I am very eager to find out.
    I hope I can use them because I got them for free

  4. Quote Originally Posted by logan
    just called and left a message , hope they call me back soon. I am very eager to find out.
    I hope I can use them because I got them for free
    How much do you have? Enough for a full cycle?

    And even if they are no good anymore, X-Factor is definitely worth the money.
    MOTIV8 II Challenge
    -=The Big Squirrel Nut Swingers=-

  5. You want www.si03.com

    'Syntrax' no longer produces Adonis X
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by TheUnlikelyToad
    You want www.si03.com

    'Syntrax' no longer produces Adonis X
    Damn that flash site is f'n annoying...

    http://www.si03.com/thesite.htm#Contact_Section
  7. Talking


    Thanks for the links TheUnlikelyToad and JonesersRX7. I had no idea. I gave them a call and they told me that they have been tested and should be fine. The date is set because FDA requires a date, but it doesn't always mean the product is no longer any good.

    I have 3 bottles enough for 54 days it costs me next to nothing. I'm excited!!!!!!!!!!
    I'll be starting Sunday. I will also be starting my first ever HST program.

    I'm hoping for some solid gains the next 8 weeks.

  8. Heard some really nice comments about that, but could find no log. Please keep us updated on your progress bro?

  9. Are you using X-factor or the other one

  10. I'm going to be using adonis x. I happen to find it really cheap and have been very curious to try out x-factor as is anyways. So I was like what the heck!

    how come you asked? have you heard anything about adonis x??

  11. Quote Originally Posted by logan
    I'm going to be using adonis x. I happen to find it really cheap and have been very curious to try out x-factor as is anyways. So I was like what the heck!

    how come you asked? have you heard anything about adonis x??
    No I have never heared anything about adonis x, But now X-factor that is my baby so if you ever have any question about that I am here to help

  12. sweet! well thank you very much. I really appreciate it.
    I do have a quick question for you:
    I wanted to maybe start taking Xpand or just some CEE, or even plain old creatine mono., do you think this would be a good idea to take along with Adonis x/x-factor? let me know what you think.

    I'll be sure to post a final review on how things went for me.

    My only worry is a few months ago I had superficial phlebitis in my calf(inflammation of a surface vein) I have a varicose vein in my calf that from time to time can bother me a bit.
    I hope it can hold the 50 days cycle without any funny business. I'm taking Horse Chestnut Seed Extract which is suppose to be good for leg circulation and varicose veins.

    I'll keep a close eye on it.

  13. These products are non-steroidal in nature so in theory they might be doable into PCT? Did anyone try that? Will the arachidonic acid metabolize into undesirable prostaglandins?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by logan
    sweet! well thank you very much. I really appreciate it.
    I do have a quick question for you:
    I wanted to maybe start taking Xpand or just some CEE, or even plain old creatine mono., do you think this would be a good idea to take along with Adonis x/x-factor? let me know what you think.

    I'll be sure to post a final review on how things went for me.

    My only worry is a few months ago I had superficial phlebitis in my calf(inflammation of a surface vein) I have a varicose vein in my calf that from time to time can bother me a bit.
    I hope it can hold the 50 days cycle without any funny business. I'm taking Horse Chestnut Seed Extract which is suppose to be good for leg circulation and varicose veins.

    I'll keep a close eye on it.
    Taking creatine with X-factor is a very good choice. But as I have told alot of people that I speak with, make sure and keep your water intake high. Creatine uses a lot of water and X-factor does to.

    Great I will look forward to reading your results. Good luck

  15. I'm afraid I'm one of the few sods who got no results whatsoever from X-Factor. i used the older bottles of which I ended up using 4 instead fo 3 just to see if it would finally work, but dam no. Still have half a bottle left.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by salv
    I'm afraid I'm one of the few sods who got no results whatsoever from X-Factor. i used the older bottles of which I ended up using 4 instead fo 3 just to see if it would finally work, but dam no. Still have half a bottle left.

    Man, I am sorry to hear that, Have you had your lbm check to see if you converted any fat into muscle mass. Sometimes it can seem like you gained only 1-2lbs but when you check your lbm you see that you actually converted some fat to muscle too

  17. definitely no change bud....which is a pity given i've never spent so much on one supplemtns which I'd never tried before.

  18. As far as the expired product goes, it will be fine.

    Bill (producer of X-Factor) stated that, depending on how it was stored, AA could lose 10% of its potency within the year after it expires.

  19. You are correct, it will not lose that much potency in one year if taken care of

  20. Quote Originally Posted by max von

    Man, I am sorry to hear that, Have you had your lbm check to see if you converted any fat into muscle mass. Sometimes it can seem like you gained only 1-2lbs but when you check your lbm you see that you actually converted some fat to muscle too
    Did you just say convert fat to muscle

  21. Don't laugh!! Transmutation of organic matter is a VERY serious topic for some people. Lifting weights with the mind instead of the muscles, also.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by CyberMuscle
    Did you just say convert fat to muscle
    My bad what I was trying to say but obviously was not typed that way was, did you lose some fat and gain muscle mass, there by your weight not changing much. Sorry for the confusion

  23. So I am ending a sd cycle then 3-4 weeks pct. Do you think jumping on x-factor would be ok, after the pct? Obviously if blood work showed my level in line. I just curious if this is something I can run between cycles?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by mase1
    So I am ending a sd cycle then 3-4 weeks pct. Do you think jumping on x-factor would be ok, after the pct? Obviously if blood work showed my level in line. I just curious if this is something I can run between cycles?
    You can use it during or for PCT.. Arachidonic Acid is not an androgenic/anabolic analogue, it's a fatty acid basically..
  25. Question


    I'm starting this sunday! delayed a week, things have been a bit hectic. It's under control now. Want to make sure I give this stuff a fair chance and have everything in order.

    Quick question. I was thinking of taking Dymatize's Xpand, have one at home. Will any of the ingredients work against the AA??? Let me know what you guys think.

    thank you

    cheers

    Xpand Profile:

    TriCreatine Malate 4g
    Creatine Ester Fusion 4g
    Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate
    Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (A-AKG) 3g
    Betaine-Anhydrous 2g
    Taurine (Micronized) 2g
    Glutamine Fusion 1g
    Glutamine-AKG
    N-Acetyl-L-Glutamine
    Xpansion Matrix™ 3000mg:
    Glycocyamine, glucuronolactone, l-citrulline, guanidinopropionic acid, mct's (medium chain triglycerides), vinpocetine 99%, vincamine 99%, silicon dioxide.

  26. I would use X-factor with your pct. I have done that after superdrol. It will help for sure with keeping your gains.


    As for the dymatize I am not really familiar with that product so ill digress from answering, if you are not sure just hold off and use it in 50 days

  27. So if I run PCT for 28 days and include x factor I still want to use x factor for 50 total days, correct?

  28. Quote Originally Posted by mase1
    So if I run PCT for 28 days and include x factor I still want to use x factor for 50 total days, correct?
    If you use it for 28 days during your pct then you will have 22 days of X-factor left. You should not use it for more 50 days total and then take the same amount of time off. Hope that helps out let me know

  29. The only problem I see with runnign X-Factor with PCT, is that you don't get to use heavy doses of fish oil in order to get your lipid profiles back in check. Personally, I would wait either until after PCT, or just give yourself a two week blitz attack of Fish oil and Sesamin.
    MOTIV8 II Challenge
    -=The Big Squirrel Nut Swingers=-

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Aeternitatis
    The only problem I see with runnign X-Factor with PCT, is that you don't get to use heavy doses of fish oil in order to get your lipid profiles back in check. Personally, I would wait either until after PCT, or just give yourself a two week blitz attack of Fish oil and Sesamin.
    Any good threads on this stuff?
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