Has anyone used Ultra H.O.T.ter yet?

[shootmeagain]

I can find talk about the product, and comparisons between it and Novedex XT and Rebound XT... etc. But what I wonder is if anyone has actually used Ultra H.O.T.ter yet with any results to report?

All things being equal, I'd choose Rebound XT at this point... but, I got a free bottle of Ultra H.O.T.ter from a retailer the other day; and like ALRI typically just fine... so I was considering using it instead.

It will part of my PCT which will include Nolva and Lean Xtreme as well.

Also, one last query, I typically utilize Tribestan (tibulus) post-cycle, for the LH stim properties, but I've read and am being told via communication with ALRI that I won't need that if I just use Ultra H.O.T.er. Any thoughts on that?

Thanks guys!

 

[shootmeagain]

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[Pioneer]

maybe you should try the PCT without the trib to see if their claims are true or not. if it doesn't feel like its working very well then add in the trib to compensate.

 

[lifted]

I was gonna pick some up for whenever I go back on again, but I found out that it was 17aa'ed?? That was what made me decide against it...why would ALRI methylate a PCT product? Don't understand that one, he had a good thing going there, don't fix what ain't broke, ya know? JMO though...

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Becuase the toxicity is virtually non-existant.

 

[shootmeagain]

Yes, I've seen that issued covered and initially questioned it myself... but am satisfied that any concern about that single issue is well overblown.

For purposes of the root question I am asking, we can forget that we are talking about H.O.T.ter for a minute...

Will ATD... or should ATD... 'stimulate' things in such a way (testes/LH) so as to make Tribestan unecessary or a duplication of product type/application?

Then... we can put back into the question the fact we are talking about H.O.T.ter and ask, does the form of ATD in this product carry with it those same qualities?

I.E. - Has anyone used Ultra H.O.T.ter yet and what did it do for you 'down below'?

 

[ryansm]

Using it now, will post results.

 

[not_big_enuf]

nuts are bigger than a camel's after 3 week on it. so far it's a great PCT and I've seen my libido come back. never had acne like I did on UHer. it's slowed down now and is under control but was CRAZY.

blood work in two weeks will give me lots of answers but all seems to be going very well... better than regular UH where my libido did not come back.

again, we'll see after blood tests... can't be sure of anything now

 

[size]

nuts are bigger than a camel's after 3 week on it. so far it's a great PCT and I've seen my libido come back. never had acne like I did on UHer. it's slowed down now and is under control but was CRAZY.
blood work in two weeks will give me lots of answers but all seems to be going very well... better than regular UH where my libido did not come back.
again, we'll see after blood tests... can't be sure of anything now

Sounds to me like it is working quite well. Blood tests will be a nice addition.
So many fun new things to try.

 

[bigpetefox]

So, what dosages are we using? I'm thinking of a 3/2/1 taper, any thoughts on that?

 

[ryansm]

It's what I am doing.

 

[wastedwhiteboy2]

cat wait for the bloodwork. so far every post I've seen from users is pos.

 

[Manu20]

nuts are bigger than a camel's after 3 week on it. so far it's a great PCT and I've seen my libido come back. never had acne like I did on UHer. it's slowed down now and is under control but was CRAZY.

blood work in two weeks will give me lots of answers but all seems to be going very well... better than regular UH where my libido did not come back.

again, we'll see after blood tests... can't be sure of anything now

How are you dosing it and are you taking it all at night?

 

[milwood]

ATD is the key, I think. The rest of the ingredients are icing on the cake. Depends on how much $$ you wanna spend.

 

[shootmeagain]

So, what dosages are we using? I'm thinking of a 3/2/1 taper, any thoughts on that?

Do you mean 3 caps nightly for the first week, 2 caps nightly for the second week, etc...?

If so, does this mean you are only using it for 3 weeks?

Please correct this if I misunderstand. Thanks.

 

[theghost]

We have posted test results up for Ultra H.O.T.ter at

http://www.alrindustries.com/ultra_test1a.htm

pretty impressive.

 

[not_big_enuf]

I'm taking 3 right before bed right now. I'll be tapering off 2, then 1 my last 2 weeks.

Doing a 6 week PCT actually... call me anal

 

[kwyckemynd00]

I was gonna pick some up for whenever I go back on again, but I found out that it was 17aa'ed?? That was what made me decide against it...why would ALRI methylate a PCT product? Don't understand that one, he had a good thing going there, don't fix what ain't broke, ya know? JMO though...

17aa "steroids" are toxic.

Caffeine has 4 methyl groups.

 

[kwyckemynd00]

We have posted test results up for Ultra H.O.T.ter at

http://www.alrindustries.com/ultra_test1a.htm

pretty impressive.

Holy ****!?!

1600+ Total T?!?

400+ Free T!?!?

Wow....

 

[size]

We have posted test results up for Ultra H.O.T.ter at

http://www.alrindustries.com/ultra_test1a.htm

pretty impressive.

Great. :clap2:

 

[duckway]

I'm using it right now, along w/ raloxifen and fenugreek. 3 tabs UH, 100 mg Raloxifen and ~ 500 mg fenugreek / day. Two weeks into my PCT after a 14 week Dbol/Tren/Test cycle. The boys have come back from the darkside quite nicely. I plan to taper to 2/80/500 weeks 3-4 and 2/60/250 weeks 5-6.

This is going much better than my previous Nolva/HCG based PCT. JMHO, but I like UH.

 

[SilentScream27]

We have posted test results up for Ultra H.O.T.ter at

http://www.alrindustries.com/ultra_test1a.htm

pretty impressive.

ATD cross reacts with testosterone in an RIA, so the total test # means nothing. The effects on cholesterol were interesting, though.

 

[size]

ATD cross reacts with testosterone in an RIA, so the total test # means nothing. The effects on cholesterol were interesting, though.

Yes, it does seem to be the case from some of the research and it may apply to this as well. However, Ultra Hotter is not using "exactly" using ATD.

 

[SilentScream27]

Yes, it does seem to be the case from some of the research and it may apply to this as well. However, Ultra Hotter is not using "exactly" using ATD.

true. even if there is "significant overestimation", AIs will generally increase test to some degree. a metabolite of ATD was responsible for most of the overestimation, no telling if methyl-ATD shares that metabolite or any others.

how long and at what dose was it run for? It started on april 15th, and ended july 27th, just curious if there was any washout period or anything like that.

 

[bigpetefox]

Do you mean 3 caps nightly for the first week, 2 caps nightly for the second week, etc...?

If so, does this mean you are only using it for 3 weeks?

Please correct this if I misunderstand. Thanks.

Either that, or 3 the first night, 2 the second.. I got 3 bottles, so 3 weeks wouldn't be an issue..

 

[bigpetefox]

Holy ****!?!

1600+ Total T?!?

400+ Free T!?!?

Wow....

Let's see if anyone notices the subject's liver values actually were lower at the end than they were in the first test.. Hopefully it quiets down the whole "ARGH! It's methylated, RUN!" nonsense..

And yes, caffiene has 4 methyl groups, and is known as Methylxanthine..

 

[size]

Let's see if anyone notices the subject's liver values actually were lower at the end than they were in the first test.

My guess is that the subject may have been playing with some other compounds berfore starting the UHotter which may have ahd an influence on the intro AST and ALT levels.

 

[bigpetefox]

My guess is that the subject may have been playing with some other compounds berfore starting the UHotter which may have ahd an influence on the intro AST and ALT levels.

Quite possible, but I was going with the fact that yes this is a methyl, and no it''s not toxic.. But I'm sure you knew that..

 

[Grassroots082]

Looking forward to results from this.

 

[Max32]

any updates guys, I am in week 2 right now of a:

wk 1: 20 caps activate, 3 caps ALRI Ultra HOTter, 3 caps ALRI Retain, 4 caps Scivation Fenotest, 1 gram Fenugreeek
wk 2: 20 caps activate, 3 caps ALRI Ultra HOTter, 3 caps ALRI Retain, 4 caps Scivation Fenotest, 1.5-2 gram Fenugreeek
wk 3: 20 caps activate, 2 caps ALRI Ultra HOTter, 3 caps ALRI Retain, 4 caps Scivation Fenotest, 2 gram Fenugreeek
wk 4: 20 caps activate, 1 caps ALRI Ultra HOTter, 3 caps ALRI Retain, 4 caps Scivation Fenotest, 3 gram Fenugreeek

so far...Only negs, slightly thicker/some water retention in midsection, but I attribute this to either teh quick spike in elevated cortisol or a possible HCG like bloat effect from the ultra HOTter that many find the first couple days after HCG therapy. Also, slight acne on shoulder but nothing to cry over....also, I am actually gaining weight right now as well and strength is going up...
.....and I am taking 5-6 USP Labs camphibolic/day

 

[Pioneer]

wow sounds expensive.

does this feel like a mild PH cycle to you or what?

 

[Max32]

wow sounds expensive.

does this feel like a mild PH cycle to you or what?

In a way, yeah it does, just with constant wood:thumbsup:
It wasn't too bad as far as price goes either considering I am testing one of the prods and received 2 for a contest...

Only thing is that I really do not like the slight midsection bloat, which I am thinking is cortisol related....Hopefully the retain will start getting accumulated in the system and take care of this rebound effect...

 

[Kristopher]

What dose should i take for test boosting/not PCT?

 

[Breezed_one]

Bump for the above question as I am curious as well...

 

[shyboy]

So if I am reading those Quest test results right, HDL was
really wiped out (<4) while reducing LDL as well. The overall ratio
got better but at a significant expense to good cholesterol. Also it looks like
AST & ALT liver enzymes went down when usually you see an increase
in overall levels with any stress on the liver. Mine spike way above that
when i have taken ibuprofen the night before a fasting test. I'm sceptical.

Yes it looks like overall test levels went through the roof but the
cholesterol levels are what concern me using ATD.
Were there any tests, say a month or 2 later, that showed
if HDL recovered to prior levels ???

 

[bigpetefox]

Also it looks like
AST & ALT liver enzymes went down when usually you see an increase
in overall levels with any stress on the liver.

This product is not liver toxic, that should explain it.. Not everything methylated is hepatotoxic.. :stick:

 

[lifted]

Wasn't there some kind of concern that the reason these tests are showing such a huge rise in T levels was due to the type of testing procedures being performed? I remember someone saying this in a few threads....does anybody remember this? I'll try to find the threads in question.

 

[Chalkitup]

would it be redundent to run this with a standard PCT (ie. Tamox, hCG) following a 12 week AAS cycle, or would incorporating it be beneficial? sorry if this is a stupid question.
Later

 

[TryinToGetBIG]

Im buying a few bottles today.

 

[ABiLiTY]

this has me very intrested.

If i used rxt in pct weeks 2-5. Would it be efective to use ultra hotter stacked with activate starting in say week 8 to get my natty test reallypumpin?

thanx.

 

[not_big_enuf]

Honestly, this wouldn't be a bad plan. It'll get your libido back as well (if RXT hasn't).

this has me very intrested.

If i used rxt in pct weeks 2-5. Would it be efective to use ultra hotter stacked with activate starting in say week 8 to get my natty test reallypumpin?

thanx.

 

[ABiLiTY]

I think im going to order some, I've heard so many good things about it.

 

[shyboy]

This product is not liver toxic, that should explain it.. Not everything methylated is hepatotoxic.. :stick:

But a lot of things that are non-methylated are taxing on the liver as well. Sorry, I should have been clearer.
Obviously the tester was on something stressing the liver heavily (146/654 !!!!) at the beginning of the
tests. What I should have said was that it was interesting that it did not show a rise in the levels after
the initial tests.

Did Alri ever state what, if any products, the tester was using prior to bloodwork?? Just my curiousity.
I had liver levels like that once & my doc was going to send me to a specialist for liver disease/failure.
(It turned out to be prescription anti-inflammatories for my shoulder)

 

[bigpetefox]

But a lot of things that are non-methylated are taxing on the liver as well. Sorry, I should have been clearer.
Obviously the tester was on something stressing the liver heavily (146/654 !!!!) at the beginning of the
tests. What I should have said was that it was interesting that it did not show a rise in the levels after
the initial tests.

Did Alri ever state what, if any products, the tester was using prior to bloodwork?? Just my curiousity.
I had liver levels like that once & my doc was going to send me to a specialist for liver disease/failure.
(It turned out to be prescription anti-inflammatories for my shoulder)

There's a difference between "taxing the liver" and "liver having higher activity".. I'm guessing the subject used something anabolic that happened to be methylated.. Using OTC products like acetaminophen (Tylenol) are probably worse than c17aa products.. My point was, not ALL methylated compounds are liver toxic, only certain classes of such..

 

[Kristopher]

What dose should i take for test boosting/not PCT?

um...

bump?

 

[wastedwhiteboy2]

um...

bump?

I'm not an expert on this but since noone is helping you I'll give my opinion. I used 4pills then 3 then 2 then 1. 4 seemed to kill the libido. I would start with 3.

 

[TryinToGetBIG]

I'm not an expert on this but since noone is helping you I'll give my opinion. I used 4pills then 3 then 2 then 1. 4 seemed to kill the libido. I would start with 3.

4 killed your libido? This was just test boosting right not PCT? What were your experiences when you switched from 4-3-2-1?

 

[bioman]

I'll be running it 3-2-1 along with cAMPIBOLIC and Cissus, then maybe bridge with Activate for a few more weeks. Should be fun..I'm looking forward to it as I really really really hate Nolva.

 

[TryinToGetBIG]

I'll be running it 3-2-1 along with cAMPIBOLIC and Cissus, then maybe bridge with Activate for a few more weeks. Should be fun..I'm looking forward to it as I really really really hate Nolva.

Keep this thread goin....i have 2 bottles that will be here in less than 2 days....all experiences will be posted in this thread, and I will be using both bottles.

 

[Max32]

Keep this thread goin....i have 2 bottles that will be here in less than 2 days....all experiences will be posted in this thread, and I will be using both bottles.

I am towards the final day sof the 3rd week at 2/night, starting my 4th week at 1/night. This PCT has been a breeze!!