ATD instead of HCG?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Onslaught
    Not too surprising, from what I've seen, he doesn't explain much of anything, nor use references that actually hold any value.
    News to me. He has posted several studies along wth clincial trials for several products but it seems most people would rtather listen to the bull**** negative hype than actually read what was posted 3 montsh ago.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Bobo
    As I said before they were a sponsor and to this day I don't think it will be as effective as HCG. THat doens't mean it doesn't work but there isn't enoug evidence that I see. But Author usually has bloodwork that supports his arguements....He posted them earlier with Ulta Hot and they were pretty impressive but thats gone now...
    what's your best guess as to dosing protocol for ATD on cycle, Bobo? 25, 50, 75mg/day?

  3. Quote Originally Posted by milwood
    what's your best guess as to dosing protocol for ATD on cycle, Bobo? 25, 50, 75mg/day?
    In one of thecore.com issues, ALR talked about it a bit. I believe his people were taking something like 3-4 pills/day, which would be roughly 50mg of ATD according to numbers by--yes, i know, i know--pat arnold who speculted there were about 15mg ATD per UH pill.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    In one of thecore.com issues, ALR talked about it a bit. I believe his people were taking something like 3-4 pills/day, which would be roughly 50mg of ATD according to numbers by--yes, i know, i know--pat arnold who speculted there were about 15mg ATD per UH pill.
    does anyone know conclusively how much ATD is in a HOT cap?

  5. I believe it is ~18mg for the older version but the new one is a different compound

  6. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    I can only speculate based off of my expericnce with ATD used in this manner. I recently ran a cycle of SD/ATD that went something along the lines of this:

    week 1 30mgs SD 100mgs ATD
    week 2 30mgs SD 75mgs ATD
    week 3 30mgs SD 50mgs ATD
    week 4 30mgs SD 25mgs ATD

    week 5 40mgs Nolva 25mgs ATD
    week 6 30mgs Nolva 50mgs ATD
    week 7 20mgs Nolva 75mgs ATD
    week 8 10mgs Nolva 100mgs ATD

    I understand that this is not a long ester AAS cycle, but I did have the BEST pct I have ever had, and retained all of my gains along with gaining strength during pct. Next up I will add ActivaTe to the mix.

    To add I did use fenugreek, but I always do.

    Ryansm,
    What 's the reasoning behind increasing the ATD dose weekly during PCT? I think I've seen others including maybe Dr. D recommend this strategy as well yet in the DS forum it's recommended that one ramps down the ATD dose during PCT.

    A little off topic, but I'm really curious.

  7. bumping this thread for another question. I know the answer won't be coming from ALR, so those of you who have helped with a lot of info might suggest.

    Would the use of ATD and HCG during a cycle be any good? I started with ATD, but now am using HCG. I stopped the ATD as such, but does anyone think running both would work or not?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by jas123
    Ryansm,
    What 's the reasoning behind increasing the ATD dose weekly during PCT? I think I've seen others including maybe Dr. D recommend this strategy as well yet in the DS forum it's recommended that one ramps down the ATD dose during PCT.

    A little off topic, but I'm really curious.
    Not too sure, but I believe it is a preventative measure to diminish rebound estrogen levels.
  

  
 

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