New Ar1macare Pro formula Vs. Old Ar1macare Pro

  1. New Ar1macare Pro formula Vs. Old Ar1macare Pro


    Guys I am about to start an Andro Cycle soon and was wondering which Ar1macare Pro to use as a support the new formula or the old one.

    I know Arimistane is not really effective as an anti estrogen but the new formula is also missing Abieta-8,11,13-trien-18-oic acid and I am not too sure how effective Elimistane Luteolin is as an anti estrogen

    I am attaching the supplement facts panel for your reference

    would be great if you guys could give your inputs.
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  2. New formula.

    OL wouldnít reformulate to put out a worse product
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  3. the old got more NAC ...but the new got milk thistle

  4. I still have my doubts on the new formula as I feel that the older one was a bit more comprehensive as a cycle support and the new formula is more of a standalone (general use) supplement which people can use even while they are not on a cycle.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by mohit View Post
    I still have my doubts on the new formula as I feel that the older one was a bit more comprehensive as a cycle support and the new formula is more of a standalone (general use) supplement which people can use even while they are not on a cycle.
    What specifically do you like better about the older product?
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  6. I wish they kept the CoQ10, but I guess it's cheap enough to add myself.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    What specifically do you like better about the older product?
    Abieta-8,11,13-trien-18-oic acid

    Also I am not too sure how effective Elimistane Luteolin is as an anti estrogen

  8. Quote Originally Posted by mohit View Post
    Abieta-8,11,13-trien-18-oic acid

    Also I am not too sure how effective Elimistane Luteolin is as an anti estrogen
    You could potentially compare the IC50 of both as AIís. Thereís probably more at play then just this, though

  9. Quote Originally Posted by mohit View Post
    Abieta-8,11,13-trien-18-oic acid

    Also I am not too sure how effective Elimistane Luteolin is as an anti estrogen
    a lot of people bought elimistane when it was on sale, be on the lookout for reviews...should be some coming soon.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by mohit View Post
    Abieta-8,11,13-trien-18-oic acid

    Also I am not too sure how effective Elimistane Luteolin is as an anti estrogen
    Its still in there - double the dose as the old one
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by NoAddedHmones View Post
    Its still in there - double the dose as the old one
    Where is it bro? The Abieta I mean...

  12. its just labeled differently but its in there and the new ai is way more promising than the petri dish studied stuff.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Olympus Labs View Post
    its just labeled differently but its in there and the new ai is way more promising than the petri dish studied stuff.
    Just wondering what is it labelled as.... I can see pine bark extract twice on the facts panel....

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Olympus Labs View Post
    its just labeled differently but its in there and the new ai is way more promising than the petri dish studied stuff.
    I can vouch for the new AI...i'm using sup3r pct and am pleasantly surprised by the strength of elimistane!!!
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    I can vouch for the new AI...i'm using sup3r pct and am pleasantly surprised by the strength of elimistane!!!
    What cycle did you run?

    And what do you mean by “strength of Elimistane” sorry I’m asking too many questions as I’m pretty new to all this...
  16. New Ar1macare Pro formula Vs. Old Ar1macare Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by mohit View Post
    Just wondering what is it labelled as.... I can see pine bark extract twice on the facts panel....
    Pine Bark Extract, which probably contains the abieta. PES labeled one of the Erase Pro versions similarly back in the day

  17. But it doesn’t make sense....why call Abieta Pine Bark Extract...

  18. Quote Originally Posted by mohit View Post
    But it doesnít make sense....why call Abieta Pine Bark Extract...
    The question Iím assuming you mean to ask is why isnít OL stating what % abieta is being standardized for in the pine bark extract. I donít know the answer to that.

  19. Is the OG version on sale anywhere?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by mad dog View Post
    Is the OG version on sale anywhere?
    Yes most online retailers still have some in stock.....

  21. Quote Originally Posted by mohit View Post
    Yes most online retailers still have some in stock.....
    because it is a naturally occurring constituent of pine bark extract.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Olympus Labs View Post
    because it is a naturally occurring constituent of pine bark extract.
    Are you guys able to tell us the percentage of abieta contained in the pine bark? Iím assuming since other competitors havenít, there really isnít a need but would be good to know. NoAddedHmones stated itís double the dose as before, and originally it was 100mg, but I would figure if youíre using a pine bark that is nearly 100% extracted for abieta then youíd put that on the label.
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