DS Lean Xtreme

[div1872]

Has this been discontinued or changed?

Seems to have disappeared from some sites and don’t see it mentioned as much as it used to be.

This was once one of the best non stims out there!

 

[cheftepesh1]

Personally never got much out of it. I know DS was kind of fading for a while.

 

[john.patterson]

DS was a great company 6+ years ago. I remember when I first started lifting and dieting consistently I absolutely loved Lean Xtreme (probably 6-7 years ago). The product went under label changes several times and became less and less effective. I haven't see it or used it in years.

 

[bigsmall]

DS Lean Extreme turned into total garbage.

 

[jrock645]

Plenty of other cortisol control Supps out there that are better at this point. Wonder what they were spiking this stuff with back in the day, since that seemed to be their secret to making effective Supps.

 

[thebigt]

Plenty of other cortisol control Supps out there that are better at this point. Wonder what they were spiking this stuff with back in the day, since that seemed to be their secret to making effective Supps.

in all fairness many company's were spiking back in the day....just sayin

 

[LeanEngineer]

Plenty of other cortisol control Supps out there that are better at this point. Wonder what they were spiking this stuff with back in the day, since that seemed to be their secret to making effective Supps.

Agreed. A lot of other supps out there. Reduce XT by SNS would be one.

 

[AntM1564]

Has this been discontinued or changed?

Seems to have disappeared from some sites and don’t see it mentioned as much as it used to be.

This was once one of the best non stims out there!

The original version was great. Once they reformulated, I forget exactly what they changed, it wasn't as good. I would look at the Evomuse line for a non stim fat burner.

Also, AlphaMax can be used when cutting, even though it is a natural anabolic. It has a full dose of forskolin, which is a great non stimulant ingredient to use when cutting.

Forskolin will increase cAMP levels and help with increasing fat loss while also increasing lean mass. Now, diet needs to be on point, but it is a great ingredient. Here are some good reads on the ingredient.

Forskolin increases metabolism, burns fat, breaks down triglycerides, and increases lean-body mass
The thyroid stimulating strength of forskolin has been compared to TSH (thyrotropin). Thyroid hormone levels are important for leanness.
Forskolin has increased total testosterone by 16% in male subjects during a 12-week trial.

https://www.t-nation.com/supplements/burn-fat-pile-on-muscle-with-forskolin

Fat Mass:  The colforsin group lost 4.52 kilograms (9,94 pounds) of fat, plus or minus 5.74 kilograms, while the placebo group lost only 0.51 kilograms (1.12 pounds), plus or minus 1.91 kilograms.
Lean Body Mass:  The colforsin group gained 3.71 kilograms of lean body mass (8.162 pounds), plus or minus 4.07 kilograms, while the placebo group gained 1.57 kilograms (3.45 pounds), plus or minus 2.56 kilograms.
Testosterone:  The Testosterone of the colforsin group rose 33.7 percent, while it decreased 18.35 percent in the placebo group.

https://www.t-nation.com/supplements/dont-kill-the-messenger

The total body weight of a mixed group of men and women in a 12-week study decreased from 74.7 kilograms to 73.5 kilograms while experiencing increases in lean body mass (without weight training).

https://www.t-nation.com/supplements/tip-the-t-boosting-capsule-you-need-to-take

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16129715

https://legionathletics.com/forskolin/

http://www.infinitelabs.com/forskolin-reviews/

 

[div1872]

Here’s a question can Forskolin raise estrogen?

 

[scoooter]

Here’s a question can Forskolin raise estrogen?

Here's the thing, if it raises anything then because the body wants to remain balanced then yeah it'll also contribute to increasing E.

Would it promote a huge spike in E, don't know, waiting for someone else to chime in

 

[AntM1564]

Here's the thing, if it raises anything then because the body wants to remain balanced then yeah it'll also contribute to increasing E.

Would it promote a huge spike in E, don't know, waiting for someone else to chime in

Highly unlikely anything natural will raise test so greatly that it will even have an impact on estrogen.