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  1. I have used ecdy products on and off since 2006. MassMax has not disappointed me at all. I personally benefit the most from ecdy mixed with high volume training. I mix in a ton of 10x10 while on MassMax.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Wasn't this brought up a long time ago? First, it's on their company's forum/site (the one claiming theirs is the only good one). Second, their method for how they tested it is beyond dubious really, and also posted by the admin of their site. They claim the testing was performed by the Institute of the Chemistry of Plant Substances, who just so happens to be who they source their ecdysterone from. Also, it's located in Uzbekistan, so they ordered a bottle and sent it to Uzbekistan instead of having it tested at a non-biased lab (someone that doesn't also sell ecdysterone, or at least isn't the company that this ******** buys their ecdysterone from) in the same country that the product was shipped from. This is insanely suspect really.
    I was literally typing a post very similar to yours until I read it. Thank you lol

    MassMax has had lots of loggers, both sponsored and unsponsored. All of them achieved very similar results. Many ended up buying another bottle for themselves to make the run 8 weeks. The stuff is great. You wonít be disappointed. Just train hard, eat according to your goals and watch the pounds come!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by bwdill View Post
    Reason for wanting to take it?
    @Rad83 they gave you some reasons as to why the test on MassMax might be suspect but that doesn't mean it's not accurate. They never showed any test from Performax Labs to backup the ecdysterone content of the product. Now reviews and anecdotal reports are fine but that is no proof the product contains ecdysterone.

  4. MassMax works. I've ordered 6 bottles so far and enjoy having a little extra appetite and strength that shows up around week 2-3 of each 8 week run. It really shines during a bulk!
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  5. If performax released its own tests, there wouldn't be any dispute haha
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    This all came up some time ago as well. I'll just leave it at this as we have to remain neutral - there have been previous postings (as well as one in this thread that was already deleted) that stink of being posted by people associated with ******** (IP addresses, etc.). Take that information into consideration when considering the information you read.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    This all came up some time ago as well. I'll just leave it at this as we have to remain neutral - there have been previous postings (as well as one in this thread that was already deleted) that stink of being posted by people associated with ******** (IP addresses, etc.). Take that information into consideration when considering the information you read.
    I try not to trust numbers on an info sheet unless it has a paper trail, chain of custody etc. I enjoyed Mass max when I ran it 2-3 times when it first launched and would be happy to pick it up again.
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    @baxmax - unsure why you keep posting things and then deleting them, but for the record we don't protect sponsors. If we did, this thread would have been deleted already. We also don't put up with BS from competing companies (ESPECIALLY ones that still try to advertise here even though they are not sponsors any longer). Your account can remain active here, but if all you're going to do is come here and try to stir up trouble then you're getting banned.

  9. @Ari Gold,

    Thank you for giving me the opportunity to be present on AM.

    Could you be more specific and support the following msg with some sort of proof:

    "that stink of being posted by people associated with ******** (IP addresses, etc.). Take that information into consideration when considering the information you read."

  10. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Wasn't this brought up a long time ago? First, it's on their company's forum/site (the one claiming theirs is the only good one). Second, their method for how they tested it is beyond dubious really, and also posted by the admin of their site. They claim the testing was performed by the Institute of the Chemistry of Plant Substances, who just so happens to be who they source their ecdysterone from. Also, it's located in Uzbekistan, so they ordered a bottle and sent it to Uzbekistan instead of having it tested at a non-biased lab (someone that doesn't also sell ecdysterone, or at least isn't the company that this ******** buys their ecdysterone from) in the same country that the product was shipped from. This is insanely suspect really.
    It's been a year or so since the lab performed the tests. The companies/products, mentioned in these tests, had lots of time to respond.
    MassMax doesn't claim a certain ecdy % in the supp, they use RC extract (non-standardized). Their label claim is accurate.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by baxmax View Post
    It's been a year or so since the lab performed the tests. The companies/products, mentioned in these tests, had lots of time to respond.
    MassMax doesn't claim a certain ecdy % in the supp, they use RC extract (non-standardized). Their label claim is accurate.
    But claiming there is no ecdysterone in the product at all is inaccurate my friend. The entire methodology behind this ďtestingĒ is beyond laughable. Letís send competitorís products to a lab halfway across to the world, and letís have the lab we send it to happen to be a company who sells ecdysterone themselves AND who just so happens to be the the supplier that the company who ordered the testing uses for their product. Not openly disclosing this information when discussing the tests, these blatant conflicts of interest, is beyond disingenuous.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    But claiming there is no ecdysterone in the product at all is inaccurate my friend. The entire methodology behind this “testing” is beyond laughable. Let’s send competitor’s products to a lab halfway across to the world, and let’s have the lab we send it to happen to be a company who sells ecdysterone themselves AND who just so happens to be the the supplier that the company who ordered the testing uses for their product. Not openly disclosing this information when discussing the tests, these blatant conflicts of interest, is beyond disingenuous.
    The problem is the tests were not done by Chromadex or another US based lab? I believe, anyone had a chance to prove this tests wrong if a bottle of the supp of the same batch was sent to Chromadex or any US based lab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baxmax View Post
    Could you be more specific and support the following msg with some sort of proof:
    Nope, I sure can't. We don't provide personally identifiable information about any users on AM to anyone. Believe me or don't believe me, it really makes no difference to me. It's just funny that when this stink all gets regurgitated again you miraculously appear in here again.
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    Just an update: I have now personally seen a lab test which clearly shows that MassMax contains Ecdysterone. This will be my last response to this nonsense and anyone that stirs this crap up again in the future will be swiftly banned.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    Just an update: I have now personally seen a lab test which clearly shows that MassMax contains Ecdysterone. This will be my last response to this nonsense and anyone that stirs this crap up again in the future will be swiftly banned.
    Can this be posted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rascal14 View Post
    Can this be posted?
    I am unable to post it as I do not own it and have not been authorized to do so by the manufacturer.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    I am unable to post it as I do not own it and have not been authorized to do so by the manufacturer.
    Fair enough, maybe they will post themselves. It seems like that would be something they would want the public to see!

  19. As an huge ecdysterone fan (been that since 1999) I have always been skeptical to ecdysterone products out there and I always wanted to see lab test/COA of the products
    Thermolife introduced Ecdysteroids from ICPS early 2000 and I saw a lab test. Then I personally sent a sample of the product to a Norwegian Lab and the results was almost identical. (I didnt trust Thernolife in the beginning).

    I would love to see COA/Lab test mr. Ari Gold saw of MassMax. Since he saw it, it means the proof is out there and Perfomax Labs should proudly show it and not to mention to prove wrong the company who tested MassMax.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Danes View Post
    As an huge ecdysterone fan (been that since 1999) I have always been skeptical to ecdysterone products out there and I always wanted to see lab test/COA of the products
    Thermolife introduced Ecdysteroids from ICPS early 2000 and I saw a lab test. Then I personally sent a sample of the product to a Norwegian Lab and the results was almost identical. (I didnt trust Thernolife in the beginning).

    I would love to see COA/Lab test mr. Ari Gold saw of MassMax. Since he saw it, it means the proof is out there and Perfomax Labs should proudly show it and not to mention to prove wrong the company who tested MassMax.
    totally agree!
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