CBD shut down in Federal Court- Remains Schedule I drug

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    Pretty sure I saw a study that claimed that it was .03% THC in legit CBD.
    Right, and for it to pop positive on a drug test an average sized human would have to ingest 2000 mg of CBD in a day!


  2. Quote Originally Posted by compan View Post
    I'm just glad I like in WA and don't have to worry about the FDA being influenced by big pharma. My lower back and stomach weren't feeling great yesterday while standing around a lot. Took a 10mg CBD mint yesterday and completely forgot about it because the discomfort when away. No impairment whatsoever either. It's an absolute shame everybody can't experience that.
    Everybody can experience that, because CBD oil/products are legal in all 50 states. Now, Mary Jane and THC products (or CBD/THC blends) are a different story.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by OldGreyFitGuy View Post
    Right, and for it to pop positive on a drug test an average sized human would have to ingest 2000 mg of CBD in a day!
    Thatís a lot of CBD lol. Now, admittedly, I donít know what patients with extreme problems and illnesses take, but I donít think it even flirts with 2 grams a day! But, maybe Iím wrong.

    Point being, nobody is getting high in any sort of way whatsoever from trace THC in CBD products. But, apparently itís ok to have trace amounts of lead, pesticides, and radioactive materials from run-off in our drinking water? Again, itís a crime against the citizens.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Ripple2352 View Post
    That’s a lot of CBD lol. Now, admittedly, I don’t know what patients with extreme problems and illnesses take, but I don’t think it even flirts with 2 grams a day! But, maybe I’m wrong.

    Point being, nobody is getting high in any sort of way whatsoever from trace THC in CBD products. But, apparently it’s ok to have trace amounts of lead, pesticides, and radioactive materials from run-off in our drinking water? Again, it’s a crime against the citizens.
    I totally agree.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by scherbs View Post
    Ummmmm no longer in Congress . . . .

    Kinda hard to miss that these days.
    Also in the news-we have a reality-TV star turned President in the White House
    I meant LIKE Jeff Sessions as in having the same ďreefer madnessĒ views and mentality. Not actually Jeff Sessions himself. Just using him as a reference point because his views on cannabis are so ludicrous and I donít even smoke! Lol He compares cannabis to heroin. There are clearly members of Congress who share his sake views unfortunately.
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  6. CBD even at .3% should be legal....but as far as pot goes they need to work out the logistics of testing...say for example impaired driving, or accidents at work, as far asi know there is no way to tell if you smoked last week or 10 minutes ago?


    I am very anti-drunk driving, I don't want more impaired drivers out there endangering my family!!!
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by BlockBuilder View Post
    I meant LIKE Jeff Sessions as in having the same ďreefer madnessĒ views and mentality. Not actually Jeff Sessions himself. Just using him as a reference point because his views on cannabis are so ludicrous and I donít even smoke! Lol He compares cannabis to heroin. There are clearly members of Congress who share his sake views unfortunately.
    The unfortunate thing is this isnít even THC/cannabis weíre talking about! Itís a compound found in hemp (and marijuana)! No different than the polyphenols and antioxidants found in olive oil, flax oil, avocado oil, etc...

    For marijuana to become legal, at the federal level at least, thereís a lot that needs to be figured out. Iíll give them that. So, from that point of view, TEMPORARILY keeping marijuana scheduled (albeit scheduled less seriously) while they PROACTIVELY WORK TOWARDS legalizing it makes a modicum of sense. But CBD being a schedule I drug is nothing short of absolute and pure ridiculousness on the most grand of scales.

  8. I live in California and have been involved in the 420 scene for years.
    CBD 1:1 thc ratio stuff is the only thing I injest.
    But to be honest I still am impaired when I smoke it.
    Currently I'm perfecting a sharkshock strain.
    I have my own s1 seeds that I made from an original f1 sharkshock cbc plant.
    7%the 7%cbd.
    Completely medicinal.
    Stomach, back, mind are all eased from it.....but I would still call myself slightly impaired after I smoke it.
    CBD actually counter acts the psychedelic effects of marijuana. Makes it much more a sedative.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    CBD even at .3% should be legal....but as far as pot goes they need to work out the logistics of testing...say for example impaired driving, or accidents at work, as far asi know there is no way to tell if you smoked last week or 10 minutes ago?


    I am very anti-drunk driving, I don't want more impaired drivers out there endangering my family!!!
    I think there was a study done on this. Where they showed HIGH doses of marijuana was less impairing then being at the legal limit of blood alcohol.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by rtmilburn View Post
    I think there was a study done on this. Where they showed HIGH doses of marijuana was less impairing then being at the legal limit of blood alcohol.
    my friend, impaired is impaired...people are lousy enough drivers stone cold sober-they don't need any assistance!!!

    people are so damned worried about guns, way more people get killed and injured from impaired driving/drivers than guns!!!
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by rtmilburn View Post
    I think there was a study done on this. Where they showed HIGH doses of marijuana was less impairing then being at the legal limit of blood alcohol.
    Nvm I confused the articles I read. There was no study, that I'm aware of, that compared the two. Rather it was an article that saying how hard it is to compare/set a legal limit for marijuana, like you would with alcohol

  12. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    my friend, impaired is impaired...people are lousy enough drivers stone cold sober-they don't need any assistance!!!

    people are so damned worried about guns, way more people get killed and injured from impaired driving/drivers than guns!!!
    Agreed. I was remembering falsely an article I read. I found it and reread it, and it was actually about how setting legal limit for marijuana being more challenging than alcohol.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by rtmilburn View Post
    Agreed. I was remembering flase an article I read. I found it and reread it, and it was actually about how setting legal limit for marijuana being more challenging than alcohol.
    don't get me wrong, I'm all for legalization....I just don't want stoners smoking a joint then driving with no way for enforcement...anymore than I want people drinking and driving, but I am fine with people drinking OR smoking and NOT driving!!!

    what you do in your home is no concern of mine!!!
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    don't get me wrong, I'm all for legalization....I just don't want stoners smoking a joint then driving with no way for enforcement.

    what you do in your home is no concern of mine!!!
    Fully agree.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    CBD even at .3% should be legal....but as far as pot goes they need to work out the logistics of testing...say for example impaired driving, or accidents at work, as far asi know there is no way to tell if you smoked last week or 10 minutes ago?


    I am very anti-drunk driving, I don't want more impaired drivers out there endangering my family!!!

    Playing devils advocate here. Because even though I dont use MJ. In no way should it be criminalized imo.

    I share that we don't want more DUI's out there with you. I really do. But then how do we make Alcohol legal on one hand, and then on the other hand, use a specific lie and claim MJ has no valid medical use? It is because our very own Gov't is telling the lie, to protect the profits of Big Pharma and others.

    That's the BS we are sick and tired of. All of us. Just like the new SARMS bill. On one hand you have the Gov't and other agencies saying that for athletes, it's super dangerous, mimics testosterone (which is also wrongly scheduled). On the other hand, the FDA and others are saying how safe SARMS are for patients and they have very little, or no risk.

    It is this hypocrisy...that is not just words..but it is actions. It is Ruining someones life or attempting to, by prosecuting them in the Flawed Criminal Justice system. For next to nothing. To protect Profit. Like someone else said, this is an attack on the American Citizen.

    I can speak to this having been to Prison in 2009 for my AAS arrest. 10bottles of cyp, some orals and half of them were used/empty. My syringes "disappeared" from evidence, in order to attempt to make my arrest look like sales/distribution.

    These agencies, and law enforcement, who have to be held to a high standard, are actually the true criminals. The ones that are involved in this. Go along with it. Or otherwise say nothing all the while it happens, with them fully well knowing how fraudulent this all is. It is not the personal user of CBD, AAS, MJ. So for this reason, I am personally against the Gov't being in control of any of this. They have the ability to use their "discretion" and in almost every case, they intentionally **** that up. And the individual (who is not harming anyone) is the one who pays the for Big Pharma's money with their freedom, aka Prison time, legal fees, court fees, etc.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    my friend, impaired is impaired...people are lousy enough drivers stone cold sober-they don't need any assistance!!!

    people are so damned worried about guns, way more people get killed and injured from impaired driving/drivers than guns!!!
    ive always thought there should be an advance drivers test.
    where you take a more advanced test and if you pass you r insurance should be cheaper. i think that the clumsiness with alcohol is much more than marijuana. marijuana dosnt really cause stumbling or word slurring.
    but your right, people suck at driving

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Cgkone View Post
    ive always thought there should be an advance drivers test.
    where you take a more advanced test and if you pass you r insurance should be cheaper. i think that the clumsiness with alcohol is much more than marijuana. marijuana dosnt really cause stumbling or word slurring.
    but your right, people suck at driving
    Weed makes me straight up retarded and i wouldnt be able to drive at all. Wont ever see me smoking weed and driving. And you wont ever see me drinking period. Just saying weed impairs me immensely. I used to be able to smoke all day and literally couldnt function without it. But that ship sailed a long time ago

  18. Quote Originally Posted by christ83189 View Post
    Weed makes me straight up retarded and i wouldnt be able to drive at all. Wont ever see me smoking weed and driving. And you wont ever see me drinking period. Just saying weed impairs me immensely. I used to be able to smoke all day and literally couldnt function without it. But that ship sailed a long time ago
    Man it was just a few years ago where I was literally high for a year. I went to school high. I went to work high. I played football games high. I went to church high. You named it and I was stoned during it. It was actually one of my most productive years ever. Now I agree fully it does impair motor skills and should never be used while driving. I think during that whole year I drove a total of 6 miles while stoned. As I always had some else drive me. Even though nothing happened i still wished I didn't drive those six miles. It just is nowhere near as impairing as alcohol. Even the legal limit of alcohol is more impairing then weed imo.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by rtmilburn View Post
    Man it was just a few years ago where I was literally high for a year. I went to school high. I went to work high. I played football games high. I went to church high. You named it and I was stoned during it. It was actually one of my most productive years ever. Now I agree fully it does impair motor skills and should never be used while driving. I think during that whole year I drove a total of 6 miles while stoned. As I always had some else drive me. Even though nothing happened i still wished I didn't drive those six miles. It just is nowhere near as impairing as alcohol. Even the legal limit of alcohol is more impairing then weed imo.
    Just moved to Seattle and can definitely say that weed can be as impairing as alcohol if not more. It all depends on the person and the weed. Ethanol is easier to make laws around because it's one chemical that gets diluted. Walk into any legal weed store and the choices alone are overwhelming. If you want something to relax you a little bit, they got that; if you want something to knock you on your ass, they got that too. Plus the mechanisms of how they work are different, so it's comparing apples to oranges.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by rtmilburn View Post
    Man it was just a few years ago where I was literally high for a year. I went to school high. I went to work high. I played football games high. I went to church high. You named it and I was stoned during it. It was actually one of my most productive years ever. Now I agree fully it does impair motor skills and should never be used while driving. I think during that whole year I drove a total of 6 miles while stoned. As I always had some else drive me. Even though nothing happened i still wished I didn't drive those six miles. It just is nowhere near as impairing as alcohol. Even the legal limit of alcohol is more impairing then weed imo.
    I've never had a problem driving on weed.
    Nobody I know has either. We've been smoking weed our whole lives. On the other hand. I've barely made it home after drinking. I've list a few friends from drunk diving too.
    They are completely different animals.
    Legal limit is way more dangerous than a couple joints, hands down.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Cgkone View Post
    I've never had a problem driving on weed.
    Nobody I know has either. We've been smoking weed our whole lives. On the other hand. I've barely made it home after drinking. I've list a few friends from drunk diving too.
    They are completely different animals.
    Legal li.it is way more dangerous than a couple joints, hands down.
    on average a drunk driver will drive drunk 80 times before being arrested....because you can does not mean you should.

    if you are not impaired from smoking weed why do you do it?

    you must just like 'the taste', lol.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    on average a drunk driver will drive drunk 80 times before being arrested....because you can does not mean you should.

    if you are not impaired from smoking weed why do you do it?

    you must just like 'the taste', lol.
    Sure there are strains that cause you to feel "intoxicated" maybe but there are others that don't. I believe it's user dependent on who can smoke what kind and perform what tasks. You get someone that has never smoked and they act all goofy either on purpose or because of the high. But for someone as myself that literally smokes before anything that it really doesn't cause any impairment. I smoke before work, doctor visits, court any situation in life. I first started smoking because every other youngster was doing it then I realized this is something I can supplement for my social anxiety, pain from hernia, stress of life, added calories..

    I understand some don't agree and never will that's how my whole family is. I respect you like I do them and your opinion. I just really have seen the medicinal benefits of pot.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    on average a drunk driver will drive drunk 80 times before being arrested....because you can does not mean you should.

    if you are not impaired from smoking weed why do you do it?

    you must just like 'the taste', lol.
    I smoke high CBD because it has tons of medical benefits.
    I never drive after drinking....I never drink.
    It taste alright I guess. But I smoke an actual medical strain. You really don't get high.
    I've literally been around marijuana since I was 11 years old. I've never seen marijuana hurt anybody.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Burnfire View Post
    Sure there are strains that cause you to feel "intoxicated" maybe but there are others that don't. I believe it's user dependent on who can smoke what kind and perform what tasks. You get someone that has never smoked and they act all goofy either on purpose or because of the high. But for someone as myself that literally smokes before anything that it really doesn't cause any impairment. I smoke before work, doctor visits, court any situation in life. I first started smoking because every other youngster was doing it then I realized this is something I can supplement for my social anxiety, pain from hernia, stress of life, added calories..

    I understand some don't agree and never will that's how my whole family is. I respect you like I do them and your opinion. I just really have seen the medicinal benefits of pot.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Cgkone View Post
    I smoke high CBD because it has tons of medical benefits.
    I never drive after drinking....I never drink.
    It taste alright I guess. But I smoke an actual medical strain. You really don't get high.
    I've literally been around marijuana since I was 11 years old. I've never seen marijuana hurt anybody.
    We had a few strains of the high cbd and no thc strain of the plant in stores here but with the new ruling those are gone. I smoke just about whatever I can find since it isn't legal here. I have friends that have all the resins, shatter ect.. that stuff is cool I enjoy it as well but I really enjoy a nice bowl or joint for sure.
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