What is your favourite stim-free pre-workout powder that you actually use?

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  1. I always feel lethargic when using High Volume, 1 scoop or 2 doesn't matter. Taking a stim based PWO with it doesn't change that lethargic feeling! Anyone else experience this?

    I could try taking it intra-workout, but would I get the benefits of the ingredients then?


  2. Big fan of Kraken Pump and Mega Pre, my new go to's for non stim pre.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Zman68 View Post
    Big fan of Kraken Pump and Mega Pre, my new go to's for non stim pre.
    Kraken Pump does look interesting, but a bit underwhelming compared to some of the other mentioned. How does it feel compared to Mega Pre?

  4. Thoughts on MPA CelluVOL? Has anyone tried it?
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by HITFrank View Post
    I could try taking it intra-workout, but would I get the benefits of the ingredients then?
    I'm not too sure about this, but I doubt you'd be able to reap the best pump effects if you took it during your workout. The Citrulline would need time to be absorbed, then the kidneys would need time to convert it into Arginine and then the Arginine would need to get pumped into your bloodstream. I'm not too sure how long that process would actually take
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by niclas90 View Post
    After finding out that years of pre-workout usage has rekt my resting HR, i'm looking for stim-free options as training completely without pre-workout just isn't the same.

    I've been looking at Primeval Labs Mega Pre and Scivation Quake 10.0 Caffeine Free and they both look solid, but what is YOUR experience with stim-free pre-workouts and which one is your favourite?
    Those are both great options. I have not used those, but here are three options I like and personally rotate.

    VasoMax - Good for pumps, pumps are not long lasting, great for focus due to the nootropics in the product.

    High Volume - Hands down the best for pumps. No nootropics so if you need a boost for your focus, there would be better alternatives.

    Kraken Pump - Pumps similar to VasoMax, but nothing for focus.

    If you are just looking for a great pump, HV gets my vote, but if you need something for focus, VasoMax would be a better option
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  7. Celluvol by MPA supps

  8. Quote Originally Posted by K_pem View Post
    Celluvol by MPA supps
    Great profile, but waaaaaayyyyyy too expensive.

  9. Agreed. But if you wait for sales it’s not bad. I️ build my own pre anyways

  10. Quote Originally Posted by K_pem View Post
    I️ build my own pre anyways
    I make my own blends sometimes.
    What are you mixing?

  11. Generally pretty simple, base is:

    L- Cutruline or Citruline Malate
    Creatine monohydrate or a C mag chelate/CEE/Mono blend
    Beta alanine
    ALCAR

    Then add ons into that are:
    Amino energy
    Bang pre workout
    Glycerol
    Nitrates

    Depending on the day and workout I’ll adjust accordingly. Used to have bulk Alpha GPC to throw in but haven’t re upped on that in awhile. Not uncommonly I’ll pick up a random pre and just add into my mix in lighter dose

  12. im going very simple next buy

    Citrulline
    Norvaline
    Taurine

  13. Sadly all of my favorite things always get discontinued, but my favorite non-stim if you can find them:

    Neogenix BodyForge 2.0
    OL Conqu3r Unleashed stim-free
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    Scivation Quake Non-Stim.. Currently BOGO so hard to pass up for the price. 2-20 Scoopers for $28
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  15. Vasomax worked better than High Volume imo

  16. Quote Originally Posted by GoofyKai View Post
    I have! Highly recommend it. However the best I've used is Volugen, by Morphogen labs. Can't find a better product than that anywhere. Volugen gives me some sick endurance and strength enhancements within the first week. You'll notice you're breathing is more controlled and you're taking up more O2.
    Seems you only get Volugen from Morphogen labs?

  17. High volume gets my vote, and non stim quake is great as well

  18. I vary between hemovol and pump juice.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Slims View Post
    Great profile, but waaaaaayyyyyy too expensive.
    Not if you price it out by serving. 30 vs 18 servings in High Volume, with the 25% off code(it's out there) makes it cheaper.

    Both High Volume and Celluvol are my go to.

  20. I am currently using a product by an European company and I like its profile. I bought it a the introduction price, so good deal also.

    It is basically 8 grams CM, 6 grams Aakg, 2 grams Arginine Nitrate and ņ Beetroot extract.

    Otherwise I just stick to bulkpowders of CM, Aakg, etc.

    I also played around with Vaso6

  21. Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Scivation Quake Non-Stim.. Currently BOGO so hard to pass up for the price. 2-20 Scoopers for $28
    Where is this? I found a couple of BOGOs on Quake, but none of them included the caffeine-free version.
  22. What is your favourite stim-free pre-workout powder that you actually use?


    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Scivation Quake Non-Stim.. Currently BOGO so hard to pass up for the price. 2-20 Scoopers for $28
    It's like 30% cheaper else where.
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  23. Hemavo2 Max is the one I pretty much always use. I have used a bunch of sample packs of High volume and find it legit.. but ive pretty much always stuck with hemavo2 max.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Segansational View Post
    Sadly all of my favorite things always get discontinued, but my favorite non-stim if you can find them:

    Neogenix BodyForge 2.0
    OL Conqu3r Unleashed stim-free
    Didnít neogenix re-release that like 2 years ago?

    Not heard anything from them in a while actually

  25. Quote Originally Posted by DEVANS89 View Post
    Didnít neogenix re-release that like 2 years ago?

    Not heard anything from them in a while actually
    Don't recall when, but yeah, they did a v3.0 or something that was a stripped down version. If I recall it was pretty affordable, but I never looked into what changed in detail. 2.0 though was packed.
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