Morning wood. Anything to take that can restore it?

[Stanfoo]

Are there any supplements one can take that brings back the morning wood? Assuming diet isn't the problem.

 

[agnos]

How old?

 

[cubsfan815]

Check out this thread

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=179001

I prefer all in ones like Alphamax. I'm 39 and it still works wonder.

 

[SFreed]

Waking up with a young girlfriend??

 

[bigsmall]

I am 50 and Viron works great. LJ100 is not economical and its hard to find decent tongkat powder.

 

[LeanEngineer]

I would give BLR Viron a shot and see if it works for you. I have heard a lot of good reviews on it.

 

[AdelV]

Are there any supplements one can take that brings back the morning wood? Assuming diet isn't the problem.

Do you take basics like zinc, magnesium etc?

 

[kenpoengineer]

Are there any supplements one can take that brings back the morning wood? Assuming diet isn't the problem.

Morning wood is a result of optimization of hormones that include testosterone, estrogen and prolactin. Have you ever had a full hormone bloodwork panel done?

 

[justhere4comm]

Follidrone 2.0 has been working for me.
Not only the morning portion, but also the hardness and length of hardness in time.

TMI?
:afro:


I'm not taking anything else.
Not even Creatine.

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[Swindler]

Tadalifil is legit i use it for the pumps but it works really well for getting a full erection as well.

 

[Rocket3015]

Check Out the Get Diesel web site........... Chuck Diesel any words of wisdom ??

 

[TheMovement]

BLR new product Vector has given me quite the surprise here. Why idk as the panel is still coming. It has indeed given me very interesting feedback so far in terms of Morning wood power like hanging my towel, erection strength, and honestly the mood benefits associated. There’s some feedback from other testers but again no ingredient panel has been released yet.

 

[Rocket3015]

This thread should help with the wood !!

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/279226-yoga-pants-procycle.html

 

[bigsmall]

50 year old here. Real tongkat powder works well for me, but its really hard to find it now. I have used Viron with some success, but not used LJ100. Which of the two do you think is better and more economical?

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Are there any supplements one can take that brings back the morning wood? Assuming diet isn't the problem.

Diesel test hardcore may increase your morning wood but my Coq Diesel will def increase your morning wood. It’s some purpose is wood and libido. It so adds a nice nitric oxide pump when used preworkout.

It’s on amazon and getdiesel.com

There is also feedback on here if you search Coq Diesel.

I’d take 2 at 12-2pm and 2 more around 4-7pm. It will increase wood period and should increase speed and duration of wood as a result of stimulation.

Our ready4war preworkout tabs produce wood also.

 

[Rocket3015]

Diesel test hardcore may increase your morning wood but my Coq Diesel will def increase your morning wood. It’s some purpose is wood and libido. It so adds a nice nitric oxide pump when used preworkout.

It’s on amazon and getdiesel.com

There is also feedback on here if you search Coq Diesel.

I’d take 2 at 12-2pm and 2 more around 4-7pm. It will increase wood period and should increase speed and duration of wood as a result of stimulation.

Our ready4war preworkout tabs produce wood also.

You can use the discount code in my signature for any of these items !!

 

[PoSiTiVeFLoW]

Morning wood is a result of optimization of hormones that include testosterone, estrogen and prolactin. Have you ever had a full hormone bloodwork panel done?

Tadalafil will help vasodilate veins, but if actual sex drive is gone, get blood work , you may need a shot of Test weekly or so... Assuming there's no other psychological or diet based issue first.

Test Enthanate give me morning wood and any time wood, lol makes the wife happy Just like being 18.

 

[Ricky10]

I'm not taking anything else.
Not even Creatine.

Ah....you must be holding off for the VECTOR SUPER STACK!

 

[jgntyce]

BLR VIRON has definitely helped in this regard. Take a look at it OP.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

The Coq (Diesel) shall set you free....and it’s only like $23

 

[brundel]

I'd for sure say Viron with Follidrone.
Viron increases free test and just slightly lowers estrogen.
Follidrone was tested vs viagra and beat it on most accounts. I can personally say this combo is solid. Like a cool breeze passes and I'm at attention.

 

[justhere4comm]

I'd for sure say Viron with Follidrone.
Viron increases free test and just slightly lowers estrogen.
Follidrone was tested vs viagra and beat it on most accounts. I can personally say this combo is solid. Like a cool breeze passes and I'm at attention.

Absolutely true. Follidrone 2.0 alone has me feeling great, and I don't get the upset stomach like with Viagra. It's truly amazing.

 

[brundel]

Absolutely true. Follidrone 2.0 alone has me feeling great, and I don't get the upset stomach like with Viagra. It's truly amazing.

With Viagra I can't breathe. Nose clogs from the vasodilation.
I can tell you one thing I've learned with trial and error....Don't eat grapefruit and viagra....
Fml. I once took a quarter of viagra and left the house to have dinner. I had a salad with grapefruit. Came home and went to sleep. About an hour later I woke up and had an erection that lasted 5 hours. Even after sex....still just like 100%. 5 hours.....I nearly went to the hospital.

 

[justhere4comm]

With Viagra I can't breathe. Nose clogs from the vasodilation.
I can tell you one thing I've learned with trial and error....Don't eat grapefruit and viagra....
Fml. I once took a quarter of viagra and left the house to have dinner. I had a salad with grapefruit. Came home and went to sleep. About an hour later I woke up and had an erection that lasted 5 hours. Even after sex....still just like 100%. 5 hours.....I nearly went to the hospital.

Sure fire cure for that. Watch "The Golden Girls".
Instant boner killer. lol.

Seriously, that's crazy. I've taken Cialis and Viagra and legit, prefer Follidrone 2.0

 

[Josh141090]

Where can I pre-order BLR Vector?

 

[Swindler]

Sure fire cure for that. Watch "The Golden Girls".
Instant boner killer. lol.

Seriously, that's crazy. I've taken Cialis and Viagra and legit, prefer Follidrone 2.0

that's interesting you prefer follidrone over cialis or viagra?

 

[TheMovement]

that's interesting you prefer follidrone over cialis or viagra?

I can easily say you will prefer Vector over Cialis or Viagra.

 

[justhere4comm]

that's interesting you prefer follidrone over cialis or viagra?

Yes. They give me acid reflux something terrible, and it's truly better.

 

[thebigt]

Diesel test hardcore may increase your morning wood but my Coq Diesel will def increase your morning wood. It’s some purpose is wood and libido. It so adds a nice nitric oxide pump when used preworkout.

It’s on amazon and getdiesel.com

There is also feedback on here if you search Coq Diesel.

I’d take 2 at 12-2pm and 2 more around 4-7pm. It will increase wood period and should increase speed and duration of wood as a result of stimulation.

Our ready4war preworkout tabs produce wood also.

my 'coq' is locked and loaded, but couldn't put it to use-not yet anyways, SOON!!!

 

[muscleupcrohn]

I'd for sure say Viron with Follidrone.
Viron increases free test and just slightly lowers estrogen.
Follidrone was tested vs viagra and beat it on most accounts. I can personally say this combo is solid. Like a cool breeze passes and I'm at attention.

Are you taking about in-house testing, or that supposed “EC vs Viagra study” that is constantly mentioned but has never been properly referenced, nor the full text/journal seen?

I know we talked about it before, but the only similar study I’ve seen was comparing ecklonia Bicyclis (with a few other ingredients) to Tadalafil (which is Cialis, not Viagra). It was also only 5mg Tadalafil, so not a very high dose, and while the ecklonia-containing supplement “outperformed” the Tadalafil, that was only in regards to libido; it didn’t outperform it in regards to erectile function. We all know that Tadalafil is geared towards blood flow and erectile function, not libido.

I do not doubt that EC/FD2 is solid for libido and erectile function, and definitely healthier for regular/long term use though.

 

[brundel]

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[brundel]

Are you taking about in-house testing, or that supposed “EC vs Viagra study” that is constantly mentioned but has never been properly referenced, nor the full text/journal seen?

I know we talked about it before, but the only similar study I’ve seen was comparing ecklonia Bicyclis (with a few other ingredients) to Tadalafil (which is Cialis, not Viagra). It was also only 5mg Tadalafil, so not a very high dose, and while the ecklonia-containing supplement “outperformed” the Tadalafil, that was only in regards to libido; it didn’t outperform it in regards to erectile function. We all know that Tadalafil is geared towards blood flow and erectile function, not libido.

I do not doubt that EC/FD2 is solid for libido and erectile function, and definitely healthier for regular/long term use though.

I have seen the viagra study. Its in Korean though and translation is rough. I dont think I have a copy but it does exist. Just not in english.
Also just anecdotal evidence. Ive taken both and while viagra does work for me it has all these side effects Follidrone just doesnt have.
So, even if FD2 is slightly less effective its still better in my opinion. You can take it every day and it has a host of other benefits while viagra has been shown to cause cancer

 

[muscleupcrohn]

I have seen the viagra study. Its in Korean though and translation is rough. I dont think I have a copy but it does exist. Just not in english.
Also just anecdotal evidence. Ive taken both and while viagra does work for me it has all these side effects Follidrone just doesnt have.
So, even if FD2 is slightly less effective its still better in my opinion. You can take it every day and it has a host of other benefits while viagra has been shown to cause cancer

Send me the Korean study then. Or at least the name of the actual study; the proper journal reference. I know some people who are fluent in Korean, and also have some some software to convert PDFs to text documents, and can convert that. If it’s such a great study, with such bold claims/results, you read it, used the ingredient in your products, and repeatedly reference it, why wouldn’t you keep a copy and/or citation/reference of it? Tadalafil also has less adverse effects as a whole than Sildenafil. There are also newer options that are similar to Sildenafil in effects but without some of the side effects, but they’re pretty pricey.

I’m not knocking EC/FD2 by any means, I just care about honest and accurate claims, and would love to see this study. I do agree that FD2 would actually be healthy to use daily, while that’s not really super healthy with Tadalafil, but I don’t really see a comparison in acute use of Tadalafil and EC/FD2 in terms of pro-erectile function. I’ve used FD2 and high-dosed EC (the one used in studies) BTW.

 

[justhere4comm]

Send me the Korean study then. Or at least the name of the actual study; the proper journal reference. I know some people who are fluent in Korean, and also have some some software to convert PDFs to text documents, and can convert that. If it’s such a great study, with such bold claims/results, you read it, used the ingredient in your products, and repeatedly reference it, why wouldn’t you keep a copy and/or citation/reference of it? Tadalafil also has less adverse effects as a whole than Sildenafil. There are also newer options that are similar to Sildenafil in effects but without some of the side effects, but they’re pretty pricey.

I’m not knocking EC/FD2 by any means, I just care about honest and accurate claims, and would love to see this study. I do agree that FD2 would actually be healthy to use daily, while that’s not really super healthy with Tadalafil, but I don’t really see a comparison in acute use of Tadalafil and EC/FD2 in terms of pro-erectile function. I’ve used FD2 and high-doses EC BTW.

I've used both Viagra and Cialis, and FD2 is equal in every regard for me personally with none of the negative sides and in addition to that all the other benefits of FD2. This after only 3 weeks into my run with it this time around solo.

Erection / Hardness / and Libido.
Why not just try it.

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[Chuck Diesel]

Nothing produces boners like Viagra and Cialis (and their analogs). So it’s import to separate you guys claims to “natural” supplements. You’re kidding yourselves saying XYZ works better than them to sell a bottle or 2. Let’s be real here.

 

[justhere4comm]

Nothing produces boners like Viagra and Cialis (and their analogs). So it’s import to separate you guys claims to “natural” supplements. You’re kidding yourselves saying XYZ works better than them to sell a bottle or 2. Let’s be real here.

Happy to say, you're wrong here my man. It's my real experience.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

I've used both Viagra and Cialis, and FD2 is equal in every regard for me personally with none of the negative sides and in addition to that all the other benefits of FD2. This after only 3 weeks into my run with it this time around solo.

Erection / Hardness / and Libido.
Why not just try it.

Use my discount code if you can't see my signature: MARK15 for 15% off.

Read my post. I HAVE tried it. I’ve also tried stand-alone high-dosed EC (the same extract used in studies). Granted, I don’t have any erectile issues, but FD2 is no Tadalafil in terms of acute pro-erectile properties.

 

[justhere4comm]

Read my post. I HAVE tried it. I’ve also tried stand-alone high-dosed EC (the same extract used in studies). Granted, I don’t have any erectile issues, but FD2 is no Tadalafil in terms of acute pro-erectile properties.

Then how would you know, if you have no erectile issues?
I'm 53 and can tell you, you're opinion in this case is moot.

It works for those of us who actually can use it.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Then how would you know, if you have no erectile issues?
I'm 53 and can tell you, you're opinion in this case is moot.

It works for those of us who actually can use it.

Because Tadalafil has acute pro-erectile effects for people with normal erectile function too...

Also, please respond to my last post about the “Viagra study.” Show me that reference that BLR people, and others selling EC products, keep talking about. I think I’ve been asking for evidence for that study and for one of the EC beverage muscle studies for probably a year now, and nothing...

If my opinion, based primarily on extensive scientific research, is moot, is yours based solely on anecdotal evidence not also moot due to your position as a rep for the company selling the product?

Listen, I’m not knocking FD2 at all, but least be realistic. Acute Tadalafil use is more effective in terms of increasing erectile function in ANY population than acute FD2/EC use. FD2/EC really works better with daily dosing. I agree that I’d prefer to try something like FD2 daily before relying on Tadalafil or Sildenafil, but that doesn’t mean FD2 is MORE effective, or equally effective as Tada or Sild, only that it has a much better safety profile, and is generally healthier.

 

[justhere4comm]

I took an aspirin once, and it had no effect on the headache I didn't have.

 

[TheMovement]

Because Tadalafil has acute pro-erectile effects for people with normal erectile function too...

Also, please respond to my last post about the “Viagra study.” Show me that reference that BLR people, and others selling EC products, keep talking about. I think I’ve been asking for evidence for that study and for one of the EC beverage muscle studies for probably a year now, and nothing...

If my opinion, based primarily on extensive scientific research, is moot, is yours based solely on anecdotal evidence not also moot due to your position as a rep for the company selling the product?

Listen, I’m not knocking FD2 at all, but least be realistic. Acute Tadalafil use is more effective in terms of increasing erectile function in ANY population than acute FD2/EC use. FD2/EC really works better with daily dosing. I agree that I’d prefer to try something like FD2 daily before relying on Tadalafil or Sildenafil, but that doesn’t mean FD2 is MORE effective, or equally effective as Tada or Sild, only that it has a much better safety profile, and is generally healthier.

I really don’t think your hearing me. Vector alone is better than both Viagra and or Cialis. Why would I lie? It is safer, healthier, and the sides for using only around Pre sexual activity are minimal. I figured it out by accident and noted it. Then realized it was constant.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

I took an aspirin once, and it had no effect on the headache I didn't have.

Aspirin actually does have some uses besides relieving headaches though, so nice try...

ECA stack, cardiovascular health, etc...

Also, please address my other points. Show me this “EC vs Viagra” study BLR and other EC sellers keep referencing. I’ve been asking for a proper citation or text for probably a year now, and have heard nothing. The only study comparing ecklonia to a PDE5 inhibitor was actually comparing a different ecklonia (with other ingredients) to low doses Cialis, not Viagra, and it DIDN’T outperform it in terms of erectile benefits, only libido, which Tadalafil isn’t geared to do anyway. If you keep defending studies, but can’t provide anything besides a shady “summary” of the study with no citation/journal/publication info, I can’t help but wonder if the study actually exists...

 

[muscleupcrohn]

I really don’t think your hearing me. Vector alone is better than both Viagra and or Cialis. Why would I lie? It is safer, healthier, and the sides for using only around Pre sexual activity are minimal. I figured it out by accident and noted it. Then realized it was constant.

Weren’t we just talking about FD2 and ecklonia cava? I don’t even know what’s in Vector yet, so I can’t possibly comment on it...

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Also, the numbers in the “EC vs Viagra” study are beyond suspicious.

Supposedly in the comparative study, the scores reported for Orgasmic Function, Intercourse Satisfaction, Overall Satisfaction, and Erectile Function with Sildenafil (Viagra) were EXACTLY the same as the results, down to the exact %, as a previous study done exclusively with Sildenafil (Marks 1999).

Really, the EXACT same numbers? In four categories? Down to the exact %? No two studies will both come up with the exact numbers (66, 44, 39, and 27%) in the same categories. It’s literally an infinitesimal chance, if that.

What seems most likely is one study was on ecklonia only, and attempted to compare it to a different study on Viagra, then somehow attempted to say it’s the same comparative study. That’s the BEST case scenario I see. If I was going to fabricate a study, I’d at least try to change up the numbers from a different study a little bit.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Also it’s actually against FDA and FCC regulations for a company to even claim their natural product works equal to or better than a drug with absolutely no study other than “I tried both.”

So it’s really not worth it just to pimp a product.

I’m just keeping it real.

 

[AdelV]

Nothing produces boners like Viagra and Cialis (and their analogs). So it’s import to separate you guys claims to “natural” supplements. You’re kidding yourselves saying XYZ works better than them to sell a bottle or 2. Let’s be real here.

I totally agree.

It's beyond a joke when people claim natural supplements to Viagra.

EC definitely increases libido

Chuck: Is there any analogues available? Cialis doesn't work for me, but original Aspire36 lasted 35-40 hours.

 

[PoSiTiVeFLoW]

Never tried FD2 or EC, but why is Cialis (tadalafil citrate) lumped in with Viagra in this thread?
I've used both to offset other things in my party past... Cialias has a much longer effective time. Pretty much zero sides, for me.
Viagra on the other hand, works but only effective for half a day not 2-3 days like Cialis. Also, no blue vision!! You know how every Viagra commercial uses a blue for the woman's dress, the car, etc... Yeah cause some of us will see frickin Smurf blue! Nothing like a little Daisy Smurf boom boom.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

I totally agree.

It's beyond a joke when people claim natural supplements to Viagra.

EC definitely increases libido

Chuck: Is there any analogues available? Cialis doesn't work for me, but original Aspire36 lasted 35-40 hours.

Aspire36 had a very rarely used analog of cialis in it. I can’t rem what it was. I have to look it up. It could be possible you responded better to that than OTC cialis.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Never tried FD2 or EC, but why is Cialis (tadalafil citrate) lumped in with Viagra in this thread? I've used both to offset other things in my party past... Cialias has a much longer effective time. Pretty much zero sides, for me. Viagra on the other hand, works but only effective for half a day not 2-3 days like Cialis. Also, no blue vision!! You know how every Viagra commercial uses a blue for the woman's dress, the car, etc... Yeah cause some of us will see frickin Smurf blue! Nothing like a little Daisy Smurf book boom.

The “study” supposedly compared ecklonia cava to Viagra, while the only actual study I’ve seen compared ecklonia b. to Cialis. Some people were comparing FD2 to both Cialis and Viagra.

I totally agree.

It's beyond a joke when people claim natural supplements to Viagra.

EC definitely increases libido

Chuck: Is there any analogues available? Cialis doesn't work for me, but original Aspire36 lasted 35-40 hours.

I’m not Chuck, but there’s Vardenafil (Levitra) and Avanafil (STENDRA, SPEDRA, Zepeeed). Those are really just different pharmaceutical drugs though.

As for analogues found in supplements:
https://www.fda.gov.tw/tc/includes/GetFile.ashx?m****148&****23434

In this study, compound 1, 2 and 3 were isolated from the routine inspection samples, and their structures were elucidated by IR, NMR, LC/MS/MS and HRESI MS to be propoxyphenyl thioaildena l (1), propoxyphenyl ailde- na l (2) and propoxyphenyl hydroxyethylthiosildena l (3). Compound 3 is a new compound whose structure has not been reported previously.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

There’s also piperazinonafil and isopiperazinonafil, and Propoxyphenyl sildenafil.