mentions backed by science....mentions BPI. Say what now
Should be interesting though.
I guess protein isn't backed by science. K.mentions backed by science....mentions BPI. Say what now
I was just messing with you since BPI gonna BPI (You cant honestly say many of their products are not pixie dusted). I actually liked their protein until they refused to provide the chromadex test results, then I bailed on them.
I thought with Ultimate T you hit new PRs and gained a good amount of weight. Sounds like good results to me in a 4 week run.
Nutrabio Pre and Intra seem like amazing formulas for covering every base possible and getting everything you need without buying other products, but in your experience do they also package punch? Just out of curiosity?
Absolutely
Pre workout
PWO: Reg1n
Funny you say that, that's the second time I heard much of KSM66, I know it's used in lots of Morphogen products.
Found in PES multi too ... can get them at cheap as $12.80 which is a steal
It's also in some of the Outbreak Nutrition Lineup, seems like an interesting substance
But BPI is Chromadex verified and is partnered with Chromadex. So i'm at a loss here what your point is. BPI has definitely falsified labels, so have many other companies. I am not saying it is ok, but i applaud companies who clean up their act and make a good effort to be on the correct side of the industry. There are plenty of companies, even big names, who are still frauding on labels. And it would be very, very, hard to find a company outside of a select few who have never defrauded the consumer.
What good is a seal of approval if it doesn't meet label claims? BPI has yet to reveal a 3rd party test to back what is in their product. If you ask their reps they just say "We are working on getting that", but are too busy eating 1,300 calories and talking about the mouthfeel and absorption of their under dosed products.
So to be clear, you're saying you do not believe Chromadex is a valid source for testing?
So to be clear, you're saying you do not believe Chromadex is a valid source for testing?
What about this appeals to you so much?For Pre Workouts, the most completely overall to me would be the Morphogen Alphagen/Volugen combo, the most completely as one pre seems to be Nutrabio Pre Extreme, but the new Ntel Mega Arez that's coming out looks insane so far
The Lotus Leaf and Anti Crash and Anti Adapt, doesn't mean it will be an amazing pre, but it seems different than most.
Do we know what’s in either of those “anti-...” blends? It looks like 1 ingredient in each based on the blurred label I saw. The anti-adapt is probably rhodiola, but I could be wrong. Also, 50mg of Alpha-GPC (100mg of 50%) is very meh, to say the least.
Yes, that's a low dosage, they claim the reason us due to the other two ingredients in that area making up for it and synergizing, we can only wait and see, it does have potential, but I could be wrong, would probably need to mix with a creatine product and this could be a good combo
I’d argue that PEA and Alpha-GPC would more compliment each other, if anything, than actually synergise, but let’s not focus on that point. They do mention the lotus as a potential AChE-I, but I’d wager to say it’s not as potent in this regard as things like huperzine, galantamine, and sage, and people still find that it’s best to use a solid dose of Alpha-GPC with these more proven, and likely more potent, AChE-Is. 250-300mg is the “low” effective dose for Alpha-GPC, with 600mg being a “higher” effective dose. Even if you cut the 250mg in half, you have 125mg. You’d have to half that dose to get near the 50mg they have, and you’d still be 12.5mg short of that 62.5mg. I’m not saying it’s not going to be a decent product, but, personally, I’d write off the 50mg of Alpha-GPC as pretty useless, and definitely not a key factor in the product’s effectiveness or as a major selling point.
I would have to agree, I personally hope they include Huperzine A
I guess we’ll just have to wait and see haha. I don’t think either of their old PWOs had it, so we’ll see about this one. It does look like they could afford to beef-up the doses in their pump blends from their previous PWOs to provide a more well-rounded experience in addition to what seems like solid doses of stims.
Ya, it does have a lot of potential, I don't know if it will replace my current Volugen/Alphagen combo, that s*** is OP my dude
Those are pretty solid man. They look a little pricey, but there’s a lot packed in them, so I can understand it. You stack a full dose of each of those?Ya, it does have a lot of potential, I don't know if it will replace my current Volugen/Alphagen combo, that s*** is OP my dude
I feel like these pre workouts are similar to Hyper and Vaso max, and I love Performax, use Intramax and Oxymax, but I feel that these employ a fuller formula and good for fat loss
Honestly Morphogen has awesome Formulas for all of their products, too bad they don't get more attention.
All of the products we’re talking about are solid for sure. As for what each person wants and how much they’re willing to pay for it, it’s never a bad thing to have multiple quality options out there haha.
Ya definitely, feel bad tho, I don't believe morphogen even has the money to have reps on AnabolicMinds, although they sure do deserve it!
They will. I know the owner. Ben is dedicated to making top notch products. They do good business, they just aren't on the AM boards so you don't hear much. And there are rules against marketing your products if you aren't a sponsor. I told Ben he was getting love on the boards, so who knows if he'll become active on here in the future.
Really? I haven't tasted it yet, only Alphagen, it's very clumpy and smells terrible does it actually taste good?
Haha yeah its a brown powder and smells funky but has an awesome taste. Pumps are stellar, right up there among the best nonstim pres
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