ANY NEW NATURAL ANABOLICS
- 01-10-2018, 04:15 AM
I've been anxious to stack it with XGels, although I haven't tried that out yet. I gained 3-4 pounds using Massmax XT, and about the same using X-Gels for different solo cycles, so I feel like stacking these would awesome.
But if you're enjoying it running solo and you're seeing good results, there's no point in fixing it if it isn't broken IMO. Glad you're enjoying it!Performax Labs Online Company Rep
Facebook.com/pmaxlabs
www.PerformaxLabs.com - 01-10-2018, 08:45 AM
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- 01-10-2018, 10:35 AM
I’m currently running X-Gels with CEL M-Test for a 50 day run with the goal of adding some retainable poundage and then following it up with Follidrone 2.0 to lean it out a bit going into the spring.
I can post some before and after pics of the X-Gels/M-test run and then additional set post-F2.0. Considered a log like I’d run back in the day under my previous username, (which I forgot the password to and the password to that email that was linked to it so I had to start from scratch LOL) - 01-10-2018, 11:26 AM
I got a good enough deal on MassMax (x2 bottles) to give it a shot.
I'm on my 5th full week with it (started 12/4/17) and up 5lbs exact. I'm not sure what to blame that on the most though as I also started a 300 calorie surplus at the same time as starting. Last week, 1/1/18, I added another 100 calories and may need to add another 100 as my weight has stopped at +5lbs. My current training regimen is a 4 day upper/lower split focusing on progressive overload, compound lifts primarily + isolation accessories.
Thing is - the weight gain does feel totally lean so far. Vascularity has remained the same, if not BETTER. My waist is up 1" as of two days ago but that might have been bloat. Going to measure again in two days because that 1" gain would mean it gained 1" in a week (last time I checked was 1/1/18 or 1/2/18) which doesn't make sense to me.
Overall I'm happy with it. If it's not aiding in weight gain, it may at least be helping keep the weight lean. - 01-10-2018, 12:53 PM
A majority of the MassMax loggers gain around 7lbs in 4 weeks, so seeing that you have gained a lean 5lbs, its pretty on-par with other peoples results.
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- 01-11-2018, 09:07 AM
I’ve enjoyed some Ecdysterone and epi products before, but there’s just no way natty supps like this are giving people 7 lbs in just 4 weeks. 2 lbs a week from a natty supp that costs $39.99 a bottle and also not a very well known product within the bodybuilding community? I’m going to have to respectfully say, ain’t no way in hell.
- 01-11-2018, 09:12 AM
- 01-11-2018, 09:25 AM
I am currently running some cheap Tribulus 90% (obviously Bulls...) at 4 grams a day (which is double the recommended dosage) 500 caps at 500mg were less than 20$ (it is sold in Germany or via Amazon).
I am three weeks in, strength is up, recovery is better and mood is good. So basically what test boosters at 30-40$ are doing, and I have tried them all.
I think I will stick with this, save some money and rotate with my beloved Turkesterone extract which performs better in the recovery department. - 01-11-2018, 09:25 AM
I know they’re well known on this forum, but outside of here most sites don’t carry it and a simple google search proves this. There are no reviews on supplementreviews, no amazon reviews and no eBay listings of it. You can say it has a cult following, and I’d agree with you. But I’ve dont plenty of homework on this product and have asked reps at other companies about it and most have never heard of it. So don’t fool yourself with it’s popularity.
- 01-11-2018, 09:36 AM
https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Performax-L...MAAOSw~vpaQNw~
Theres your eBay link so that proves you wrong for a start.
Just because reps who you know have never heard of it doesn't mean it's bunk, you will find a lot of knowledgeable people in this forum and a lot of new and old products that you've never heard of.
I see you only have 3 posts so welcome to AM and enjoy your stay. - 01-11-2018, 09:52 AM
My dude, I'm not saying it's bunk. I'm not even questioning the legitimacy of the company line. I'm questioning the guy who said he gained 7lbs in 4 weeks from it and "that's pretty on-par with other peoples results". I think MassMax can be an effective natty product, but also believe it doesn't have magical powers that give people PH type gains. I'll probably try it at some point and judge for myself, but I'm still not going to be naive and expect 5-10lbs a bottle. I just have a pet peeve with over-exaggerators and question the motive for their posts when I see it.
- 01-11-2018, 10:26 AM
Point taken, have you tried fd2 or follidrone 2.0 as it's called?
Check out those logs and the company who makes it Black Lion Research is about to launch a product called Vector. Testing showed an average 12lbs gain in mass over 30 days and the final product will have 150% of the test product. Stoked for that launch - 01-11-2018, 08:02 PM
@gravy
Sure, there is plenty of room for a stronger natty product but until its found and actually makes it to market, you got to give the current stuff a chance.. have you ran ARA, FD2, or any of the other natty products out now? you mention PH gains.. do you use them??
I only say this because if your expecting PH like gains from natural products you better be certain you haven't washed out your receptors with PH/DSs. because the actions are subtle you need a clean system to really appreciate the power of these products. I tend to agree with most of what your saying so don't misconstrue what Im driving at.BLACK LION RESEARCH
HIGH POWER PERFORMANCE - 01-11-2018, 10:39 PM
You can say whatever you want but the unbiased results speak for themselves. No one is sitting here saying people are gaining 5lbs of lean muscle tissue in 4 weeks; but with the increase in appetite, increase glycogen storage, increased muscle protein synthesis etc. Gaining 5lbs on 4 weeks of MassMax is actually quite common and on the lower end.
You clearly just started saying things without even looking at what your saying. Its on Ebay, its on Amazon, and in actuality, we don't want it on either, but it still manages to get on those sites.
Google Performax, were literally in almost every top online site; Strong Supps, Nutriverse, AOne, DPS, Lockout, TF Supplements, IPYU etc. We actually do not take on anymore online retailers cause were already carried by a majority of the top ones were more then accessible online. - 01-11-2018, 11:15 PM
ANY NEW NATURAL ANABOLICS
Big fan of massmax, ep1logue, and x gels. ABE was great as well. I have some follidrone 2.0 on the way as well that I’ll be running for an extended period of time so I’ll be able to provide some great feedback and comparisons to the other products. Have not used massacr3 but other laxo products have always put mass on me, albeit it seemed to be a little wet, but also did wonders for my joints and mobility. And although not designed/marketed as an Anabolic, Glycøshield can certainly serve as one as it will allow you to eat well above maintenance, mainly by way of carbs, to continuously add lean mass and limit/eliminate fat gain in the process
- 01-11-2018, 11:18 PM
- 01-12-2018, 04:27 AM
- 01-12-2018, 08:26 AM
Performax Labs Product Specialist
Follow My Journey: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/269588-antms-lean-bulk.html - 01-12-2018, 09:15 AM
First, I said no amazon reviews, which there aren't. I said no ebay listings, and there aren't any in the US. Some guy found one listing in Australia. Congrats on that I guess. And of course your unique company name is going to come up first on Google. It'd be like me googling "Intercourse, PA". The city is going to come up before anything else because it's the only place in the world called Intercourse, PA. So the fact that "Performax Labs" comes up when I google their name isn't really saying much. What would be impressive is if I googled "natural supplements for bodybuilding" and MassMax XT came up in the top listings. That would be "pretty on par" for a natty supplement that allowed people to gain 2lbs a week. Even if you don't want your product to get THAT big (only means increased sales and recognition), I would still think that it'd spread like wildfire and would be known by everyone and be sold everywhere and reviewed on every site.
Once again, I'm not trying to take a dump on your company, though I don't like when reps get offended by a benign comment. I'm taking a dump on the claims that I'm going to gain 2lbs a week and after running 2 bottles of this stuff, I'm going to be up 15lbs. Just stop with that. I've taken e-bol and kre-anabolyn as ecdys before and have previously taken Magnitropin, Myosynergy and Anafuse as epi products. Often times stacking them which honestly resembles the ingredient profile in MassMax. And I've never gained 2lbs a week. In fact any time I've ever gained more than a half pound - pound a week, it's been almost entirely fat or water. So either the claims of these shills are incorrect or they're gaining a ton of fat / water. Either way, that's not very appealing to me (someone who wants to keep an aesthetically pleasing appearance even when bulking).
Lastly, I'm still up for trying the product. Let's not forget that. I never said it's trash. I feel like you and others think I'm trying to slander the product and company. I'm not. I'm just trying to speak truths and call out nonsense. I don't like hyperbole or misleading info in supplement forums. - 01-12-2018, 09:22 AM
Maybe just try the product and log it.
- 01-12-2018, 09:43 AM
I may in the future, but it probably wouldn't be for some time. I have 2 bottles of OG Anabeta left that I want to run with OL Massacr3. I didn't buy the Massacr3 yet, so I would buy MassMax to stack with Anabeta if it weren't for both being big appetite enhancers and me wanting to run F2.0 after it to start to cut for summer. I don't know how an epi product followed by another epi product would be.
- 01-12-2018, 11:15 AM
As stated we actively try to keep Performax off of eBay and Amazon, as they generally underprice below MAP and devalue the brand, so the fact we're not blasted across those 2 websites is not at all surprising and also not at all linked to the effectiveness or popularity of the product.
Search ability/SEO also has nothing to do with the popularity of a product, it's simply digital marketing and the ability to ping high for specific key words so again that means almost nothing. Search the term you just said, Growth Factor 9 and TestroVax from GNC are one of the first. Do you think it's cause those two are the best for muscle growth or cause GNC has the money to be top listed for specific key words. This point is not even relevant to the effectiveness or popularity of MassMax.
I understand the skepticism but please realize we didn't make this product and go around start claiming people are gaining 5lbs in 4 weeks. We're simply relaying what loggers are reporting. I quoted 5-6 people that have all said the same thing on unbiased reviews and there's plenty more! We appreciate the feedback but we're not just pulling a number out of the air, it's simply what users are reporting. Would be interested for you to try the product yourself. - 01-13-2018, 11:18 AM
I’m with you, people on here are more focused on the scale than actual quality gains, I mean, I can easily gain 5 lbs in 1 weekend of eating like a fat ass, it won’t be pretty but I can do that all natural.
Naw, give me something that actually give me some quality strength&muscle instead, being a fat ass I can do all by myself - 01-13-2018, 01:05 PM
Chiming in here, I think this post is on point 100%. I have tried a plethora of natty anabolics, but have not yet tried massmax. (Due to me usually always trying to reduce fat/recomp) However I see that mass max can be used in this way. I will give it a try sometime down the pipeline.
- 01-14-2018, 06:27 PM
Thank you! I appreciate the accolades and gratefully, most user reviews note the same. As I stated earlier, food is the most anabolic substance you can put in your body. And Progenadrex allows you to eat more of it and re-partition more of it toward muscle and away from fat.
It really is ridiculous the gov't has taken hormones away from us as a reasonably safe method of gaining size and strength. They've been around for over 60 years, their side effects are known, and the way to deal with those are known too. But I/we don't make the laws, we just live with them. Progenadrex was my best crack at it, and I'm grateful that years later you and others are still gaining...
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