ANY NEW NATURAL ANABOLICS

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Ussoccer23 View Post
    Appreciate the advice brother. Any advice o n my best bet for natural anabolics being that my job does intense drug testing?
    My current stack.
    Vector_ natural anabolic
    Follidrone_ natural anabolic
    Viron_ test booster. Really boost free test. The combination of vector and Follidrone give you dozens of muscle building compounds.
    Epicatechin
    Ecklonia cava
    Flow csrth
    Quercetin niacin Co crystsls
    Absorption enhancement
    Ursolic acid
    Catalpol
    Loganin
    And over a dozen more.
    I don't know of anything that compares to that stack in terms of effects but also just volume of active components.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Rockzilla View Post
    I have yet to open my vector, though I have tried Follidrone and liked it. My only problem being vector having no absorption package. So it’s kinda goading you into purchasing Follidrone with it for that purpose.
    Vector will work really well regardless but..... Follidrone will for sure improve absorption of multiple components in vector. It's the golden stack.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    My current stack.
    Vector_ natural anabolic
    Follidrone_ natural anabolic
    Viron_ test booster. Really boost free test. The combination of vector and Follidrone give you dozens of muscle building compounds.
    Epicatechin
    Ecklonia cava
    Flow csrth
    Quercetin niacin Co crystsls
    Absorption enhancement
    Ursolic acid
    Catalpol
    Loganin
    And over a dozen more.
    I don't know of anything that compares to that stack in terms of effects but also just volume of active components.
    Sounds amazing. I sent you a PM my man.

  5. so iv tried the vasomax fo rlike 4 workouts now and i havent felt anything from it yet?? i get better pump from high volume
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  6. So these natural anabolics like Vector and FD2 shouldn’t impact libido?

    Also, would you stack with something like MassMax XT or would that be way too much?

    I have IBS and I take Jarrow EPS daily and it works great!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by JYD View Post
    So these natural anabolics like Vector and FD2 shouldn’t impact libido?

    Also, would you stack with something like MassMax XT or would that be way too much?

    I have IBS and I take Jarrow EPS daily and it works great!
    Naw they shouldn’t impact libido. I would not see a problem stacking either of the 2 with massmax XT considering it’s own ingredients and absorption package it’s go well with vector. Stacking with Follidrone you’d be getting a super dose of epi. And I’ve seen people dosing more than the 3 caps a day so

  8. Quote Originally Posted by JYD View Post
    So these natural anabolics like Vector and FD2 shouldn’t impact libido?

    Also, would you stack with something like MassMax XT or would that be way too much?

    I have IBS and I take Jarrow EPS daily and it works great!
    From my experience and the experience of allot of users on this board, both Folidrone and Vector positively effect libido - especially Folidrone.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by TheIronAsylum View Post
    so iv tried the vasomax fo rlike 4 workouts now and i havent felt anything from it yet?? i get better pump from high volume
    Are you on low carb diet or anything? Dose it 45 mins pre and see if that helps. The pump from VasoMax is a deep full feeling pump.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    My current stack.
    Vector_ natural anabolic
    Follidrone_ natural anabolic
    Viron_ test booster. Really boost free test. The combination of vector and Follidrone give you dozens of muscle building compounds.
    Epicatechin
    Ecklonia cava
    Flow csrth
    Quercetin niacin Co crystsls
    Absorption enhancement
    Ursolic acid
    Catalpol
    Loganin
    And over a dozen more.
    I don't know of anything that compares to that stack in terms of effects but also just volume of active components.
    That is an impressive, but expensive stack!

  11. Quote Originally Posted by JYD View Post
    So these natural anabolics like Vector and FD2 shouldn’t impact libido?

    Also, would you stack with something like MassMax XT or would that be way too much?

    I have IBS and I take Jarrow EPS daily and it works great!
    Lots of guys mention increased Libido with Vector and Increased sexual function with Follidrone.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by JoePaul39 View Post
    That is an impressive, but expensive stack!
    Its not super expensive. Only 3 products.
    The long list is just a few of the components of vector and Follidrone.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    Its not super expensive. Only 3 products.
    The long list is just a few of the components of vector and Follidrone.
    Well that is awesome! What is the third product?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by JoePaul39 View Post
    Well that is awesome! What is the third product?
    Viron
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  15. Thinking of giving Vector a try but don't know if its worth it for.

    1 - I'm still recovering from an injury so can't push 100%
    2 - I recently started TRT (not for bb reasons but health reasons)
    3 - I'm still kind of low in my muscular development from years of low T + injury
    4 - I deal w/ some pain day-to-day w/ stubborn muscle knots (don't know if vector could help here)

    Is vector worth it for me or should I eek out muscle memory gains + gains from having higher test?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by boobie45 View Post
    Thinking of giving Vector a try but don't know if its worth it for.

    1 - I'm still recovering from an injury so can't push 100%
    2 - I recently started TRT (not for bb reasons but health reasons)
    3 - I'm still kind of low in my muscular development from years of low T + injury
    4 - I deal w/ some pain day-to-day w/ stubborn muscle knots (don't know if vector could help here)

    Is vector worth it for me or should I eek out muscle memory gains + gains from having higher test?
    - You need to recover. In the mean time you can workout in other ways, no? What injury? Avoid that body part if you can.
    - How long on the TRT? Get at least 6 months on TRT before starting anything. (I don't know anyone on it for BB.)
    - Your body will remember. I'm 53, and it seems to have a great memory.
    - I'm not sure of this. What is this from? If this is muscular there are other 'kneeding tools / rollers' you can use.

    I'm on TRT for over a year now, and am using Vector on a cut quite successfully. I added in Follidrone 2.0 and it's even better. I take other supportive for my TRT. Vector is actually a bulker / recomp and it would help you immensely to build muscle while losing fat, or if you have low BF, then you'll grow. It's the best natural anabolic on the market bar none.

    I think you have to level off on your TRT first before adding anything but supports for your TRT.
    Is it through a clinic or your doctor / endo? What is your TRT protocol?

    -M
    BLACK LION RESEARCH
    Follidrone 2.0 | Vector | Letrone | Rebirth | Exotherm | Nootrol | Viron | Prolactrone +
    Want to know more?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by justhere4comm View Post
    - You need to recover. In the mean time you can workout in other ways, no? What injury? Avoid that body part if you can.
    Yeah i'm mostly recovered & working out 5x per week. I just haven't recovered ALL strength is what I meant to say (partial bicep tear a while ago - distal - no surgery
    - How long on the TRT? Get at least 6 months on TRT before starting anything. (I don't know anyone on it for BB.)
    2 months
    - Your body will remember. I'm 53, and it seems to have a great memory.
    Ill get it back
    - I'm not sure of this. What is this from? If this is muscular there are other 'kneeding tools / rollers' you can use.
    Mostly posture & mental..


    I'm on TRT for over a year now, and am using Vector on a cut quite successfully. I added in Follidrone 2.0 and it's even better. I take other supportive for my TRT. Vector is actually a bulker / recomp and it would help you immensely to build muscle while losing fat, or if you have low BF, then you'll grow. It's the best natural anabolic on the market bar none.
    I'm 6'0 161 - don't know BF but don't have developed abs to see them - especially after missing time this past year. I would guess between 12-16% but i just finished a cut/recomp & won't cut for a while. Need to focus on steady mass gains so I have something to show.

    I think you have to level off on your TRT first before adding anything but supports for your TRT.
    Is it through a clinic or your doctor / endo? What is your TRT protocol?
    Of course! I'm on 80mg 2x / week (so 160mg weekly) & 500IU HCG w/ my shots (Fertility important for me @ 26)

    -M
    Replies above brother!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by justhere4comm View Post
    - You need to recover. In the mean time you can workout in other ways, no? What injury? Avoid that body part if you can.
    - How long on the TRT? Get at least 6 months on TRT before starting anything. (I don't know anyone on it for BB.)
    - Your body will remember. I'm 53, and it seems to have a great memory.
    - I'm not sure of this. What is this from? If this is muscular there are other 'kneeding tools / rollers' you can use.

    I'm on TRT for over a year now, and am using Vector on a cut quite successfully. I added in Follidrone 2.0 and it's even better. I take other supportive for my TRT. Vector is actually a bulker / recomp and it would help you immensely to build muscle while losing fat, or if you have low BF, then you'll grow. It's the best natural anabolic on the market bar none.

    I think you have to level off on your TRT first before adding anything but supports for your TRT.
    Is it through a clinic or your doctor / endo? What is your TRT protocol?

    -M
    Hey bro,

    Did the Vector cause you increased appetite while on your cut? Heard it does in some people.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by boobie45 View Post
    Thinking of giving Vector a try but don't know if its worth it for.

    1 - I'm still recovering from an injury so can't push 100%
    2 - I recently started TRT (not for bb reasons but health reasons)
    3 - I'm still kind of low in my muscular development from years of low T + injury
    4 - I deal w/ some pain day-to-day w/ stubborn muscle knots (don't know if vector could help here)

    Is vector worth it for me or should I eek out muscle memory gains + gains from having higher test?
    This is the perfect time bro.
    You'll benefit from your test levels rising. Trt will only help.
    Vector will help you build muscle and strength.
    It's perfect for when you have have had some time off due to injury. I took 6 month off after a recent surgery. I ran a vector stack and was able to drop the fat I gained and rebuild a good deal of muscle. I'm on trt myself. 10 years now.
    Still on the Vector, follidrone, viron stack....... It's just too good to want to stop.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by JoePaul39 View Post
    Hey bro,

    Did the Vector cause you increased appetite while on your cut? Heard it does in some people.
    I have heard varied reports. Some say hunger was nonstop. Some Dont mention it.
    I think it depends on your diet and goals etc.
    Vector will cause your body to increase protein synthesis for building muscle and increase glucose uptake so it can make you hungry. But it's worth it because these things also help you lose bodyfat
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by JoePaul39 View Post
    Hey bro,

    Did the Vector cause you increased appetite while on your cut? Heard it does in some people.
    For me hunger was up for the whole run. I gained weight while leaning out though so it was all good for me. Went from a 34 waist to 32. While putting on 5ish lbs and essentially eating at maintenance
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by JoePaul39 View Post
    Hey bro,

    Did the Vector cause you increased appetite while on your cut? Heard it does in some people.
    Vector caused increased appetite for the first two weeks or so - and then the hunger becomes manageable.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by JoePaul39 View Post
    Hey bro,

    Did the Vector cause you increased appetite while on your cut? Heard it does in some people.
    Yes, but like I stated in another thread I like hunger pangs, and usually ignore them pretty easily. One thing that I have changed is adding in a ketogenic diet this week, and so it has had a positive effect on hunger. Easily satiated. The combination is intriguing to me.
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    Follidrone 2.0 | Vector | Letrone | Rebirth | Exotherm | Nootrol | Viron | Prolactrone +
    Want to know more?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    This is the perfect time bro.
    You'll benefit from your test levels rising. Trt will only help.
    Vector will help you build muscle and strength.
    It's perfect for when you have have had some time off due to injury. I took 6 month off after a recent surgery. I ran a vector stack and was able to drop the fat I gained and rebuild a good deal of muscle. I'm on trt myself. 10 years now.
    Still on the Vector, follidrone, viron stack....... It's just too good to want to stop.
    Do you cycle the follidrone and Vector or just stay on it?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by nicksox15 View Post
    For me hunger was up for the whole run. I gained weight while leaning out though so it was all good for me. Went from a 34 waist to 32. While putting on 5ish lbs and essentially eating at maintenance
    Man that is great results! Was the Vector run solo? How many weeks?
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