Which natty anabolic would be best in a fat loss scenario?
I think your being lazy! should really try and do some research as I think all 4 supplements are different in what they for..Which natty anabolic would be best in a fat loss scenario?
I have done research, the main ones that confuse are between Ep1logue and Follidrone 2.0, I included the others just for peoples opinionsI think your being lazy! should really try and do some research as I think all 4 supplements are different in what they for..
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If his English was worse...I'd say him and bb333 are the same person.I think your being lazy! should really try and do some research as I think all 4 supplements are different in what they for..
Ephedrine from where? The Lipodrene by HiTech doesnt have it anymore, just Ephedra, right?I’d say FD2 or epilogue would be best for your goals. Although honestly I find few natural anabolics help with a cut. Good diet and cardio regimen are most important. Ephedrine, Alpha Yohmbine/ Yohimbine HCL, TTA500 & ALCAR 500 is my go to fat burning stack. Radiate by rxs was phenomenal for energy with fasted cardio and appetite suppression.
Alphamax and Oxymax are complementary to each other. You will get hefty dose of F95 that way.So I have mainly brought it between Ep1logue, Follidrone 2.0, and Alphamax XT, but I am already using Oxymax with the cycle.
I would only choose one for starters to see how it treats you. Stacking multiple products will make it hard to assess what product is delivering what result. Alphamax XT and Oxymax makes for a great stack. Just be mindful of the forskolin, as both products contain forskolin. Make sure you're taking the Alphamax with a meal to prevent any GI distressSo I have mainly brought it between Ep1logue, Follidrone 2.0, and Alphamax XT, but I am already using Oxymax with the cycle.
I don't know if I really want a test booster though, have a high test alreadyAlphamax and Oxymax are complementary to each other. You will get hefty dose of F95 that way.
I would read the writeup on Alphamax XT - it's much much more than just a test booster. It can help with natural test, but Alphamax offers a lot more than just that. It's a great product to use during a cut to help retain muscle and improve hardness and vascularityI don't know if I really want a test booster though, have a high test already
Wouldn't it be bad to use if I already have high testI would read the writeup on Alphamax XT - it's much much more than just a test booster. It can help with natural test, but Alphamax offers a lot more than just that. It's a great product to use during a cut to help retain muscle and improve hardness and vascularity
I agree FOLLIDRONE 2.0 8-12 weeks.If it were me I would go with an 8 week FD2.0 Natty run since it has a cutting agent in it. It will definitely get you results if your diet is in check.
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FD2 ,Viron, Letrone Nice Stack!Is there anything you recommend stacking Follidrone with to maximize
What are the Viron and Letrone meant to help with?FD2 ,Viron, Letrone Nice Stack!
I think Studhorse has a nice stack there. I’ve run it before and I felt that Letrone may have actually been a little too strong for what I was talking. I just ordered Viron and Exotherm bc I’ve run that with Follidrone before with phenomenal results. Exotherm is great for a cut/recomp. I also bought some Amino Infusion bc I want to see if the taste is as good as brundel says it isIs there anything you recommend stacking Follidrone with to maximize
Viron: Test booster (Need to watch your sex drive on this)What are the Viron and Letrone meant to help with?
I already have a very high test and sex drive and seeing how potent these might be makes me question itViron: Test booster (Need to watch your sex drive on this)
Letrone: Is very unique
Decreased estrogen
Increased Testosterone
Increased HGH
Increased IGF-1
Increased T3 and T4 =increased metabolism.
I would just run FD2 for 12 weeks then.I already have a very high test and sex drive and seeing how potent these might be makes me question it
Maybe when I am lower body fat, I will probably just get Follidrone 2.0, what is the difference between that and normal FollidroneI would just run FD2 for 12 weeks then.
They have a good non stim fat burner that is a TD if interested.
Been a while. I think the original was just epicatechin. I think brundel was the first to bring it to the market?Maybe when I am lower body fat, I will probably just get Follidrone 2.0, what is the difference between that and normal Follidrone
Might have been Biotivia.Been a while. I think the original was just epicatechin. I think brundel was the first to bring it to the market?
I will have to bring the expert brundel to help me with this one.
So Ep1logue or Follidrone for a cutMight have been Biotivia.
OP, if it's (-)-epicatechin you're looking for, then I wouldn't discount Ep1logue, given the big dose it has. And I wouldn't sleep on UroB either, since that'll reduce catabolism and simultaneously increase MPS, and we all know how important anti-catabolic properties are while cutting. Plus people are reporting increases in strength, and retaining strength while on a cut can also be challenging. Finally, GNO mentioned that he got some leaning effects from it, even while on his junk food diet.
No sir. Even if your test is already high naturally, a natural product can only maximize your output. Since Alphamax is natural there are no negatives or side effects from the potential boost in natural test outputWouldn't it be bad to use if I already have high test
I'm more worried since I am only 18No sir. Even if your test is already high naturally, a natural product can only maximize your output. Since Alphamax is natural there are no negatives or side effects from the potential boost in natural test output
Def was not brundel dsadeBeen a while. I think the original was just epicatechin. I think brundel was the first to bring it to the market?
I will have to bring the expert brundel to help me with this one.
FD2 does have a unique extract. Much stronger that most and.....without giving away too much we have made sure you get high %s of the major actives while retaining the overall benefits of a full spectrum. You can get ecklonia cava yes but you cant get this specific extract anywhere else.Does fd 2 use a special ecklonia cava extract or can I just buy a generic extract for the insulin and fat loss benefits?
Follidrone 1= 99% epicatechin solo.Maybe when I am lower body fat, I will probably just get Follidrone 2.0, what is the difference between that and normal Follidrone
That changes my perspective then. To be honest, if you're only 18 I wouldn't spend your money on anything but creatine and fish oil at this point. You don't need any natural anabolic products or extra supplements at your age - stick to lifting heavy and eating well, and be consistent. If you work hard and consistent at your age you will see great progress and results. Save the supps for a few years down the roadI'm more worried since I am only 18
Ridiculous, 18yr old kid wanting to stack 8 different supplements, taking test boosters, etc. Nobody should be giving supplement advice to a 18yr old...kid doesn't know if he's coming or going with any of his questions, does no research, etc.That changes my perspective then. To be honest, if you're only 18 I wouldn't spend your money on anything but creatine and fish oil at this point. You don't need any natural anabolic products or extra supplements at your age - stick to lifting heavy and eating well, and be consistent. If you work hard and consistent at your age you will see great progress and results. Save the supps for a few years down the road
Duke,Ridiculous, 18yr old kid wanting to stack 8 different supplements, taking test boosters, etc. Nobody should be giving supplement advice to a 18yr old...kid doesn't know if he's coming or going with any of his questions, does no research, etc.
Not blaming you at all.
I was never going to take any test supplement, but I guess you are right, I will take some bcaas and a pre though, but would it be ok to still take something like Oxymax, I am at a level of brown fat where now matter how much I diet I can't quite get it off, thanks for the advice, but I know multiple people are under the assumption I looked for a test booster, the thread was mostly for curiousity of opinion, but I see how you are right.This...
Duke,
Do not take this the wrong way. At your age your are investing way to much into Supplements. At 18 there should be a minimal reason for you to consider dieting. You are at an age where testosterone is super high and muscle gains come easiest. People on this forum are instantly ready to throw all their money at anything and everything under the sun.When in reality you should turn that around and focus on steak, eggs, oats, rice, and food. Nothing can help a lackluster diet (not saying yours is bad), but people think these "Supplements" do so much. When in the grand scheme of things they are the minority when it comes to the big picture of your success.
You make a TON of threads asking should I take X, Y, and Z. The only things you should focus on are:
1 - Progressive overload and beating the log book
2 - Focusing on a caloric surplus to help achieve muscle gains
3 - Taking the basics (Creatine, Multi, Wish, Fishoil)
Rinse.. Repeat, and get enough sleep.
Don't fall into the assumption you have to take all these supplements, pills, and powders because in the grand scheme of things it will make the smallest difference when you could be using all that money towards your grocery bills and high quality food.
Hey man, I'm 19, I'm wondering what is the best possible training split for me to maximize my gains. I already conaider myself intermediate, but I want to make big progress in my bulk starting January 1st. I bought all the supps... Ep1logue, massacr3, follidrone 2.0, shift, x-gels, somatozine, everything! Already have all staples like multi, fish oil, different proteins, and creatine... now I know u will say I am stupid for buying all this... anyways. I need to focus on my training, Im gonna log everything. My max bench is 315, my dead is 180kg for 10 reps, squat is 140kg for 10. I always train hard to failure with so many sets, annihilating not stimulating the muscle which is the problem . I need to stop doing so much isolation and fpcus on big bar movements. I have a lot of testo naturally, so I can handle training frequenzy. Please hit me up and help me out ! Any one !This...
Duke,
Do not take this the wrong way. At your age your are investing way to much into Supplements. At 18 there should be a minimal reason for you to consider dieting. You are at an age where testosterone is super high and muscle gains come easiest. People on this forum are instantly ready to throw all their money at anything and everything under the sun.When in reality you should turn that around and focus on steak, eggs, oats, rice, and food. Nothing can help a lackluster diet (not saying yours is bad), but people think these "Supplements" do so much. When in the grand scheme of things they are the minority when it comes to the big picture of your success.
You make a TON of threads asking should I take X, Y, and Z. The only things you should focus on are:
1 - Progressive overload and beating the log book
2 - Focusing on a caloric surplus to help achieve muscle gains
3 - Taking the basics (Creatine, Multi, Wish, Fishoil)
Rinse.. Repeat, and get enough sleep.
Don't fall into the assumption you have to take all these supplements, pills, and powders because in the grand scheme of things it will make the smallest difference when you could be using all that money towards your grocery bills and high quality food.
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