What's Worked - Non-hormonal Anabolics

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by chemjr View Post
    Yeah, but there's something to be said for barlowes sourcing. His products always surpass my expectations so I'd guess you could use less and get similar effect.

    And why have I not seen LGI secreteabridge noted on here? That stuff was a great natty anabolic for me. Wild yam extract and it's counterparts are no joke. Feels like 5mg of var. Which is significant. Makes me lift harder amd longer which makes me eat more and also seems to helps with recovery. Or maybe that's the food. Idk. Seems to help with digestion a bit in myself as well.

    Also, do people not know that some probiotics are actually very important for muscle growth and test levels? I think there's a guy out there that makes a "test boosting" probiotic. Cannot recall where though and haven't used so couldn't say if it's any good. But can say I notice that when I'm out of my renew life Ultimate flora I do worse.


    Ps- also gotta check his page twice a week for sales. Rando, products go up for half price and things like that so you may want to try barlowes version then....?
    Interesting about Wild Yam, when I started training I took a product containing this and Tribulus and it made me very aggressive.

    I literally never see it in any supplements these days.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by rowz4broz View Post
    superdrol

    really? i think ive took that... Oo
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by kev4me View Post
    really? i think ive took that... Oo
    lmao im kidding

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Slims View Post
    All of what I mentioned above
    Both products not on their official site anymore, does this mean they been discounted??

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Slims View Post
    Original Anabeta contained 3,200mg serving of Anacyclus Pyrethrum (Anabeta's Powerhouse) and although Anabeta Elite still contains Anacyclus Pyrethrum, it's in a 3,000mg prop blend. So they lowered the powerhouse ingredient and put it in a prop blend
    Wow PES ruining one of their own OG formulas...shocking (not really, old news). Hey still have White Choc Mint Select.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by shockrock3 View Post
    Wow PES ruining one of their own OG formulas...shocking (not really, old news). Hey still have White Choc Mint Select.
    the sarcasm is strong with this one

  7. Quote Originally Posted by 00A View Post
    Both products not on their official site anymore, does this mean they been discounted??
    Are you thinking about buying some Anabeta?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Slims View Post
    Are you thinking about buying some Anabeta?
    Yes was looking into it... but still curious why not on official site?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by 00A View Post
    Yes was looking into it... but still curious why not on official site?
    In all honesty, and as much as I like PES, I'd recommend you look at getting one of the other natty anabolics mentioned in this thread. Sadly the new Anabeta isn't as good as it used to be.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Slims View Post
    Original Anabeta contained 3,200mg serving of Anacyclus Pyrethrum (Anabeta's Powerhouse) and although Anabeta Elite still contains Anacyclus Pyrethrum, it's in a 3,000mg prop blend. So they lowered the powerhouse ingredient and put it in a prop blend
    I think what intrested me is the Anacyclus Pyrethrum, if there other natty anabolics with it let me know, dont have be Anabeta.. plus the Pes pre didnt do anything for me so dont buy there stuff, think its overrated

  11. Quote Originally Posted by 00A View Post
    I think what intrested me is the Anacyclus Pyrethrum, if there other natty anabolics with it let me know, dont have be Anabeta.. plus the Pes pre didnt do anything for me so dont buy there stuff, think its overrated
    Olympus Labs' Test1fy supplies the full 3,200mg Anacyclus Pyrethrum dose that the OG Anabeta had, plus an open profile of loads of other goodies too.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Slims View Post
    Olympus Labs' Test1fy supplies the full 3,200mg Anacyclus Pyrethrum dose that the OG Anabeta had, plus an open profile of loads of other goodies too.
    I see, I don't wish for Testify as it contains other ingredients dont need right now.
    But found this: PR-XT by Man Sports https://mansports.com/product/pr-xt/
    Very interesting profile, wonder if anyone tried it?

  13. Probiotics can boost test. I remember reading that!
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by 00A View Post
    I see, I don't wish for Testify as it contains other ingredients dont need right now.
    But found this: PR-XT by Man Sports https://mansports.com/product/pr-xt/
    Very interesting profile, wonder if anyone tried it?
    That actually does look pretty good. Would be interested to see real forum reviews for it.
  15. What's Worked - Non-hormonal Anabolics


    Honestly, MassMax XT paired with Ara gives me similar feeling/results as OG Anabeta did but on a better level. All day fullness (pump), hunger, increased strength and weight gain.
    Performax Labs Product Specialist


  16. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    Honestly, MassMax XT paired with Ara gives me similar feeling/results as OG Anabeta did but on a better level. All day fullness (pump), hunger, increased strength and weight gain.
    Do you dose both at the same time prior to a workout.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by jameschoi View Post
    Do you dose both at the same time prior to a workout.
    Standard dosing. I take my MassMax XT with my 2 largest meals of the day with one of them preferably with your pre workout meal.
    Performax Labs Product Specialist


  18. Quote Originally Posted by chemjr View Post
    Yeah, but there's something to be said for barlowes sourcing. His products always surpass my expectations so I'd guess you could use less and get similar effect.

    And why have I not seen LGI secreteabridge noted on here? That stuff was a great natty anabolic for me. Wild yam extract and it's counterparts are no joke. Feels like 5mg of var. Which is significant. Makes me lift harder amd longer which makes me eat more and also seems to helps with recovery. Or maybe that's the food. Idk. Seems to help with digestion a bit in myself as well.

    Also, do people not know that some probiotics are actually very important for muscle growth and test levels? I think there's a guy out there that makes a "test boosting" probiotic. Cannot recall where though and haven't used so couldn't say if it's any good. But can say I notice that when I'm out of my renew life Ultimate flora I do worse.


    Ps- also gotta check his page twice a week for sales. Rando, products go up for half price and things like that so you may want to try barlowes version then....?
    Correct. I was mocked when I released Gut Health in 2006 as both a health/immune boosting and physique improving probiotic formula - even after posting the studies showing increased nitrogen usage/protein absorption.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Correct. I was mocked when I released Gut Health in 2006 as both a health/immune boosting and physique improving probiotic formula - even after posting the studies showing increased nitrogen usage/protein absorption.
    People mocked the guy who kept telling doctors that they were the cause of the "black death of childbed" in the 1800s. He told them the issue was that they didnt wash their hands and they caused the plague. They laughed at him for 30 years.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Slims View Post
    600mg of a 10:1 extract. So about 5-6 caps a day to be comparable to OG Anabeta and with only 60 caps per bottle it'll only last about 10 days :/
    its only $12 though... so if you get 3 bottles, its $36 which is what the OG Anabeta will run ya or used to cost

  21. Quote Originally Posted by cubs1987 View Post
    its only $12 though... so if you get 3 bottles, its $36 which is what the OG Anabeta will run ya or used to cost
    More expensive over here in the UK unfortunately

  22. Just came in to throw my 2 cents.

    I'm new to supplements and never tried OG Anabeta.

    I have tried ABE and did see noticeable strength gains, I would say at a rate of about 85% of the strength gains of Follidrone 2.0. The only difference being is I also saw a hunger increase with ABE which I hated, since I naturally am always hungry and never full till I clear out an entire restaurant .

  23. Quote Originally Posted by TheTank516 View Post
    I agree . Prime was good. I don't think you can get it anymore.
    Every time I used Prime my strength went up. I miss this product.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by mountain1 View Post
    Every time I used Prime my strength went up. I miss this product.
    Prime from usp?

  25. come to think of it not a lot has ever worked, i wish i could get back the 1000's of dollars i spent looking for a magic bullet.

    a good pre with creatine,TMG, beta-alananine, citrulline and agmatine will help

    ARA works but i feel i always lose the size once i stop taking it.
    PA i like to think does something.

    epi and laxo i wouldnt waste my time on anymore if someone gave it to me.

    a good whey protein shake with maybe extra leucine.
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