Hi-Tech taking another big HIT

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  1. They all make me sleepy.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by shockrock3 View Post
    Just say it "DMHA sux"...because it does . Just a chitty weak azz ingredient that doesn't remotely come close to DMAA/DMBA. Wouldn't care if Sparta put 400mg DMHA in Kraken, it would still sux.
    Kraken is a close contender for the number 1 pre in my book... right behind Wick3d
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by rowz4broz View Post
    Kraken is a close contender for the number 1 pre in my book... right behind Wick3d
    I won some Wicked awhile back and it was pretty bad! Like straight dumps! I will have to check out the formula to see whatís changed.
    Current Log: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/291581-officially-chasing-abs.html#post5714196

  4. Quote Originally Posted by TheMovement View Post
    I won some Wicked awhile back and it was pretty bad! Like straight dumps! I will have to check out the formula to see what’s changed.
    like it made you take dumps?? probably the caffeine but any PwO will do that. personally i get great sense of well being and motivation from wicked

  5. Quote Originally Posted by rowz4broz View Post
    Kraken is a close contender for the number 1 pre in my book... right behind Wick3d
    Kraken is my top pre right now. I'm interested to see what Sparta's Hydra Pump has for ingredients based on the fact that they really dosed Kraken well.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by kelvarnsen View Post
    Kraken is my top pre right now. I'm interested to see what Sparta's Hydra Pump has for ingredients based on the fact that they really dosed Kraken well.
    Kraken is so hit and miss for me. Some days it works wonderfully and some days I don't feel much. I rotate pres daily and when it comes to dmha I only use convict, kraken, and Olympus conquer/reign. Convict, conquer, and reign are all consistent while kraken only works 60% of the time for me. It's really weird. But the new flavors taste amazing.

    I know it's not exactly relevant here, but I really think mr Hyde and outlift amped are underrated. The time release caffeine complex blows away the dmha stims for me. I only feel the dmha pres for about an hour after their kick in whereas with these I feel it for 3-4 hours before slowly returning to baseline. If I take the dmha pres in the morning for a fasted workout (how I train 90% of the time), I'm reaching for a bang within 2 hours of finishing my workout to keep me productive at work. And that is with a 30mg prescription adderall xr as well (I don't get energy from it. Prescribed for add over a year ago. I only get a slight focus increase at this point). I took meso for the first time in like a year today and while it was fantastic, it didn't keep me locked in for more than an hour and a half or so. Which luckily today was all I needed as I trained after work, but normally I don't know how that will work for me. I'll be trying superpump 250 hopefully Monday or Tuesday for either legs or back, so I hope that one lasts a bit longer. Something about the way my body processes stims they just don't last for me.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by rowz4broz View Post
    like it made you take dumps?? probably the caffeine but any PwO will do that. personally i get great sense of well being and motivation from wicked
    Def wasnít the caffeine lol. May have to try it again!
    Current Log: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/291581-officially-chasing-abs.html#post5714196

  8. Quote Originally Posted by TheMovement View Post
    Def wasnít the caffeine lol. May have to try it again!
    I remember the original no explode. It definitely caused an explosion

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Apsmith4992 View Post
    I remember the original no explode. It definitely caused an explosion
    On summer vacation with my 2 brothers one year we had brought a tub of NO-Xplode. It got so bad we had to stagger when we took it so that we all didnt have to go to the bathroom at the same time.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Apsmith4992 View Post
    I remember the original no explode. It definitely caused an explosion
    The original blue razz I could barely choke down so much fizz

  11. Quote Originally Posted by TyMan14 View Post
    Kraken is so hit and miss for me. Some days it works wonderfully and some days I don't feel much. I rotate pres daily and when it comes to dmha I only use convict, kraken, and Olympus conquer/reign. Convict, conquer, and reign are all consistent while kraken only works 60% of the time for me. It's really weird. But the new flavors taste amazing.

    I know it's not exactly relevant here, but I really think mr Hyde and outlift amped are underrated. The time release caffeine complex blows away the dmha stims for me. I only feel the dmha pres for about an hour after their kick in whereas with these I feel it for 3-4 hours before slowly returning to baseline. If I take the dmha pres in the morning for a fasted workout (how I train 90% of the time), I'm reaching for a bang within 2 hours of finishing my workout to keep me productive at work. And that is with a 30mg prescription adderall xr as well (I don't get energy from it. Prescribed for add over a year ago. I only get a slight focus increase at this point). I took meso for the first time in like a year today and while it was fantastic, it didn't keep me locked in for more than an hour and a half or so. Which luckily today was all I needed as I trained after work, but normally I don't know how that will work for me. I'll be trying superpump 250 hopefully Monday or Tuesday for either legs or back, so I hope that one lasts a bit longer. Something about the way my body processes stims they just don't last for me.
    One pre that I recently tried in a sample was Total War by Redcon1. It still had DMHA as well as (somewhat) a time released caffeine with both anhydrous and dicaffeine malate. The energy lasted longer than my usual expectation of Mesomorph and energy didnít taper off which gave a great leg day.

  12. Ive tried DMAA and Amp Citrate... Re1gn is better than both IMO

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Duality29 View Post
    One pre that I recently tried in a sample was Total War by Redcon1. It still had DMHA as well as (somewhat) a time released caffeine with both anhydrous and dicaffeine malate. The energy lasted longer than my usual expectation of Mesomorph and energy didn’t taper off which gave a great leg day.
    I actually just got a free tub of Total War from my bros at a local shop. I liked it. It didn't give me all that much more energy than I would expect from the caffeine, but I enjoyed it. It will most likely make its way into my rotation. It definitely wasn't one of my top picks though. I didn't get that much energy from it, but that could totally be unrelated and a one off experience. I love time released caffeine though. I seek it out in preworkouts for sure. I had some Superpump come in today and I'm really tempted to skip my off day tomorrow to give it a go. I'm stoked for it!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Duality29 View Post
    One pre that I recently tried in a sample was Total War by Redcon1. It still had DMHA as well as (somewhat) a time released caffeine with both anhydrous and dicaffeine malate. The energy lasted longer than my usual expectation of Mesomorph and energy didn’t taper off which gave a great leg day.
    I like total war.

    Part of the reason kraken confuses me, by all means it should be stronger than total war... but it doesn't feel like anything, all my friends who i gave some to were like wtf?

    also agree DMHA is nothing compared to DMAA/DMBA, its effect is so much more euphoric... Don't really want euphoria, occasionally i want energy, most the time i just want focus.

    Will be happy when the industry moves away from DMHA, curious to see more involvement with theacrine, going to give it a try very soon!

  15. None of these ingredients are mission critical. It really depends on the person. Many people are just fine using Yohimbine and Caffeine. I just find yohimbine in a pill causes me issues sleeping. It's weird because in a preworkout it is fine.
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  16. With all the chit they put in Kraken...I wonder if all those ingredients start cancelling stuff out, killing the feeling. Overload of ingredients.
    Total War to me is the same as Sidewalk Kracka....nothing. Went through a tub of Kracka, nothing to write home about. Same guy makes both products. Tried a few samples of War...remember it being a tad better but I wouldn't buy a tub. Me & DMHA no bueno.
    Agree with the other bro...hoping the industry moves away from DMHA, it sux. Plenty of formulas out there not containing any D stimulants that are better.
    Glad I found some more AMP lol, I can rest easy.

  17. I am like that too. Sometimes I am over stimmed and other times I get nothing. No clue why that's the case.

    Wyked is a mind and muscle product and Wiked is a Hi-Tech product. Wyked doesn't have DMAA.

    Check out my article on why you probably need two preworkouts:

    http://mindandmuscle.net/articles/need-two-preworkouts/
    Nothing I say is medical advice and supplements only enhance and optimize your diet and exercise check with a medical professional before starting any program.
    Try Rise and Swell, the most advanced testosterone booster on the market!
    http://mindandmuscle.net/articles/pr...nd-and-muscle/

  18. I prefer dmha. Re1gn is my go to.
    ARA/ Evomuse Log.... Follow and laugh at my mediocre results http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/282586-evomuse-ara-log.html#post5403818

  19. Gave superpump a try today for legs. Not near as much energy as I expected, but it was a clean feeling. Giving jack3d up a try tomorrow. Mixed up 2.5 scoops and it's sitting in my fridge for the morning. I did take a small sip to try the pineapple flavor And it is delicious! Stoked to have these pres on hand and really bummed to see them go

  20. Quote Originally Posted by banjobounce View Post
    I prefer dmha. Re1gn is my go to.
    Olympus labs does NOT use DMHA.. idk why people keep saying that. Not in CU or in re1gn.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by ZachH View Post
    Olympus labs does NOT use DMHA.. idk why people keep saying that. Not in CU or in re1gn.
    Correct, never have and never will use 2-amino-6-methylheptane
    OLYMPUS LABS
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  22. Juglans Regia then which contains dmha naturally

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    You over stim, you feel like ****. When you dose something that high I think the effects become that much more polarizing. Either feel great or feel like ****. No middle ground and I actually think it's the middle ground that has the best products.
    When it comes to stims I couldn't agree more.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by ZachH View Post
    Olympus labs does NOT use DMHA.. idk why people keep saying that. Not in CU or in re1gn.
    my bad. I was referring to eria.
    ARA/ Evomuse Log.... Follow and laugh at my mediocre results http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/282586-evomuse-ara-log.html#post5403818

  25. Quote Originally Posted by banjobounce View Post
    my bad. I was referring to eria.
    IMO tomato...tomatto

    (toe-may-toe ..... toe-mah-toe)
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