Iv used cycles of 7 keto usually stacked with forsklin and l cartinine tartate....w much success in the past. Im just curious on the length and dosages on other 7 keto users.
Wow! What a coincidence, I'm researching and looking into starting a 7-Keto run right now haha!Iv used cycles of 7 keto usually stacked with forsklin and l cartinine tartate....w much success in the past. Im just curious on the length and dosages on other 7 keto users.
I'm curious about this because there are studies using 200mg oral 7-Keto being effective in reducing fat weight a factor of 3:1. What was your expected goal and outcome?Ran it at 400mg (oral), waste of $$.
A notable increase in RMR (Resting Metabolic Rate)Results
Of the 30 subjects who entered the study, 23 completed the 8-week protocol. Seven subjects dropped out for personal reasons unrelated to the study. Group 1 lost a significant amount of body weight compared with Group 2 (−2.88 kg vs −0.97 kg; P = 0.01) over the 8 weeks. Group 1 also achieved a significant reduction in body fat compared with Group 2 (−1.8% vs −0.57%; P = 0.02). The rate of change in body fat per 4-week interval in Group 1 was 3.1 times that in Group 2 (−0.88% vs −0.28%; P < 0.01). Group 1 also experienced a significant increase in triiodothyronine (T3) levels compared with Group 2 over the 8-week study period (+17.88 ng/dL vs 2.75 ng/dL; P = 0.04). There were no significant changes in levels of thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH) or thyroxine (T4) in either group. In addition, no significant changes were observed in vital signs, blood sugar, testosterone and estradiol levels, liver and renal function, or overall caloric intake during the study. No subjective adverse effects were reported throughout the study.
What were your results from your 8 week run?I ran it 8 weeks.
...What were your results from your 8 week run?
I expected the compound to measurably enhance my rate of fatloss. It didnt. I didnt notice any changes going on, throughout, or coming off. I may as well have swallowed sand.
Now, I dont meticulously count macros and calculate tdee daily as others here might, so my lifestyle variables likely make experimenting with something like this "murky". But, I can still lose bodyfat. So pragmatically speaking, if a product like this makes no perceivable dent in things, I consider it a waste. And I wouldve been happy with any measurable difference.
Both of those were funded by supplement companies that sell a 7-Keto product: Humanetics out of Minnesota, and Inter-Health/Lonza. Doesn't automatically discredit them, but it's a factor.I'm curious about this because there are studies using 200mg oral 7-Keto being effective in reducing fat weight a factor of 3:1. What was your expected goal and outcome?
A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study of 7-Keto in healthy overweight adults
A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study of 3-acetyl-7-oxo-dehydroepiandrosterone in healthy overweight adults - ScienceDirect
A notable increase in RMR (Resting Metabolic Rate)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17418559
Nice although would be too much to doEphedrine with caffeine and yohimbine.
Of course, lol. It goes well with each of them. I didn't mean all of them together. Haha.Nice although would be too much to doEphedrine with caffeine and yohimbine.
7-keto is great in a transdermal. Why not look at a product like SNS Reduce-XT? Much greater bioavailability and the results peak for themselves.Iv used cycles of 7 keto usually stacked with forsklin and l cartinine tartate....w much success in the past. Im just curious on the length and dosages on other 7 keto users.
It appears that they offer one of, if not the most, economical deal out there. Glad to know you had decent results from it!I got mine from puritan pride
11KT is better.I know 11-Keto is in a totally different league as it's actually a PH, but how do the fat loss effects stack up against 7-Keto?
If 11-Keto is a better fat loss agent than 7-Keto is it actually so far ahead that it's worth the suppression and full PCT?
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