Headaches & Brain Fog from stims?

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I have been taking half a scoop of Hypermax 3x about 150mg of caffeine a week and have these side effects of bouts of no motivation, headaches, and brain fog. What should I do about this ****
 
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I have been taking half a scoop of Hypermax 3x about 150mg of caffeine a week and have these side effects of bouts of no motivation, headaches, and brain fog. What should I do about this ****
Are you positive it's the stims?

What is your sleep like? Hydration? Any other supplements?
Do you stare at screens all day? Do you properly stretch throughout the week after hard workouts?
What does recovery entail? How's diet look?

When you cut out stims completely do you not get headaches anymore?
 

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Thanks for responding wimsicle,

sleep - 12am-9:30am
water - 1 gallon per day
supplements - creatine ethy ester, multivitamin, fish oil, for sleep melatonin and l-tryptophan
yes i stare at screens all day, only stretch pre workout for 45 minutes
 

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No recovery plan, diet alright not amazing by any stretch cheap with sugar often
 
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I've had similar experiences and it could be the artificial sweeteners
 
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do you have trouble sleeping that you are taking melatonin & l-tryptophan? Consider perhaps not taking melatonin and just prepping yourself for bed naturally about an 1hr before (no tv, computers, etc.)
 
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Headaches & Brain Fog from stims?

Also shrimp11, do you consume a lot of casein or whey?

When I was consuming a lot of casein I'd get those side effects extra bad. Casomorphins are addictive opiates contained in casein. Also, if you're consuming large amounts of calcium and glutamate, both of which casein is high in, you induce a vicious cycle of perpetual neuron stimulation. Over time this'll leave you worn out and you'll have symptoms similar to aspartate poisoning (which in turn is induced through aspartate over-stimulating your neurons).
 
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Drink coffee instead of popping caffeine pills.
 
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I'm addicted to caffeine, if I don't have any I get headaches, I have to stop for like 4 days of withdrawal for headaches and lack of motivation to go away, I know I'm better off without it but I don't drink, smoke pot or anything, and my girlfriend and I have been going at it alot and we just brought our newborn twin boys home from the hospital, so between no sleep a five year old boy constantly testing how far he can take things, and a business to run when my girl doesn't want me to work and just always help with the babies, and she's never had her own place so I can't expect her to understand what it takes to make our world go round, and I feel like i have to be everything to everybody, so quiting caffeine rite now seems challenging, but definitely felt alot better before I started drinking so much of it latley
 
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Oh yeah, I started jogging a mile every morning, that's what I did before to replace artificial energy, works great to increase natural energy
 
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Choline often times helps with brain fog.
 
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There are several things that could be doing this. The sweeteners in it, the caffeine or a reaction to one of the ingredients. The easiest way to fix the problem is stop taking it. You can test out other types of products that may work better.
 
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Headaches & Brain Fog from stims?

@OP what've you tried and has anything worked?
 

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Thanks for responding wimsicle,

sleep - 12am-9:30am
water - 1 gallon per day
supplements - creatine ethy ester, multivitamin, fish oil, for sleep melatonin and l-tryptophan
yes i stare at screens all day, only stretch pre workout for 45 minutes
This has nothing to do with your headaches but ditch the creatine ethyl ester, it's been proven to be worthless in studies. Switch to regular creapure mono.

I'd try a complete stim break for your headaches.
 
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When I experience this (rarely happens) I stop my stims for a few weeks. I use a non stim pre workout (VasoMax, high volume) in place of it and it usually helps.
 
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Also shrimp11, do you consume a lot of casein or whey?

When I was consuming a lot of casein I'd get those side effects extra bad. Casomorphins are addictive opiates contained in casein. Also, if you're consuming large amounts of calcium and glutamate, both of which casein is high in, you induce a vicious cycle of perpetual neuron stimulation. Over time this'll leave you worn out and you'll have symptoms similar to aspartate poisoning (which in turn is induced through aspartate over-stimulating your neurons).
Didn't know that about casein....
 

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This has nothing to do with your headaches but ditch the creatine ethyl ester, it's been proven to be worthless in studies. Switch to regular creapure mono.

I'd try a complete stim break for your headaches.
Why is creatine ethyl ester worthless, I thought its more absorable than mono
 
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Why is creatine ethyl ester worthless, I thought its more absorable than mono
Nah it is terrible, and reduces to a waste product very rapidly.
 

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I'm addicted to caffeine, if I don't have any I get headaches, I have to stop for like 4 days of withdrawal for headaches and lack of motivation to go away, I know I'm better off without it but I don't drink, smoke pot or anything, and my girlfriend and I have been going at it alot and we just brought our newborn twin boys home from the hospital, so between no sleep a five year old boy constantly testing how far he can take things, and a business to run when my girl doesn't want me to work and just always help with the babies, and she's never had her own place so I can't expect her to understand what it takes to make our world go round, and I feel like i have to be everything to everybody, so quiting caffeine rite now seems challenging, but definitely felt alot better before I started drinking so much of it latley
I have a similar life to yours, lol, and it's no way I can stop stims, it's just not reality. I do try to take a day off a week, I feel fine but I just know I'm so much better with it :p
 

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