This article makes a pretty strong (and somewhat disappointing) case against 12 popular supplements. What do you think?
The 12 Most Overrated Supplements | LIVESTRONG.COM
The 12 Most Overrated Supplements | LIVESTRONG.COM
Agree 110%I normally don't like anything on Livestrong, but this list is spot on.
I was going to slam them on that but went back and they did mention that BCAAs were not necessary considering someone gets in their required amount of daily protein intake. With that footnote I considered it good enough for me haha. But I do understand what you are saying, I do the same thing on the weekends.I think that not stating uses and then saying something is useless like BCAAs is a bit ridiculous. I do agree if you are getting a meal about an hour or so before training and having another meal shortly after training, they wouldn't benefit you much. But for someone like me that trains first thing in the morning and doesn't have time for a meal, BCAAs before and BCAA/EAAs during have benefited me greatly. I haven't lost any muscle during my cut and in fact look much bigger at 190 than I did at 200. So they have their place, it's up to the consumer to utilize them properly.
I see what your saying. BCAAs are conditionally beneficial, so you may not always benefit from using them, but I don't think any diet, perhaps with the exception of eating a ton of beets pre-workout (nitrates), would make citrulline/nitrate supplementation not have benefits. Of course, you don't "need" any pre-workout ingredients, but isn't that the definition of a "supplement?"Yeah - I think the thing to keep in mind is they are saying "over rated" which - in my mind - doesn't mean useless; just over hyped or over used. I'm sure there are a ton of guys going to the gym who use BCAA's and get little if any benefit from it but still think they are 100% necessary and don't ever train without them. This is where the NO thing comes in too - can you train without a pump ingredient and see gains? Absolutely. But are they useless? Try not getting enough BCAA's or NO-products in your body for a while and see how it goes (although, again - diet covers this).
Well, that's really the key I guess - do you "need" them? Because the article is talking "over rated" - and if someone has the mentality that they are "needed" then, they aren't realizing you can make 95% of the gains without them (or more). NO products fit this category precisely. Do you "need" a pump? Nope. Will it make your gains 2X better? Nope. Most people over-rate almost all supplements in this light.I see what your saying. BCAAs are conditionally beneficial, so you may not always benefit from using them, but I don't think any diet, perhaps with the exception of eating a ton of beets pre-workout (nitrates), would make citrulline/nitrate supplementation not have benefits. Of course, you don't "need" any pre-workout ingredients, but isn't that the definition of a "supplement?"
Isn't every supplement "overrated" then, since none of them are necessary?Well, that's really the key I guess - do you "need" them? Because the article is talking "over rated" - and if someone has the mentality that they are "needed" then, they aren't realizing you can make 95% of the gains without them (or more). NO products fit this category precisely. Do you "need" a pump? Nope. Will it make your gains 2X better? Nope. Most people over-rate almost all supplements in this light.
Of course, the article doesn't talk about the fact that just because they're over-rated or people don't view them correctly, that doesn't mean they aren't a potential tool in the toolbox. And it also doesn't mean that the ingredients don't have benefits beyond what we normally try to use them for. I mean, look at agmatine - not needed to make great gains; maybe over rated as a pump product - but completely under rated as a general health product.
Yeah, you are right about that. Makes it easy on the guy writing that article thoughIsn't every supplement "overrated" then, since none of them are necessary?
Haha, I love a test with no wrong answers!Yeah, you are right about that. Makes it easy on the guy writing that article though
I prefer EAAs to BCAAs intra-workout.Personally, I think BCAAs are highly overrated. I train fasted and have never experienced any improvement in muscle mass, endurance, recovery, or energy. I've done many experiments with it over the years and always came back to the conclusion it is just spending money for no reason.
I came to the opposite conclusion regarding BCAAs. I train fasted am and found the only thing that improves my workout & recovery is sugar in my intra.I came off of BCAA and fatigued pretty fast during my fasted workouts. I can tell you that while drinking BCAAS during my workout I can train harder, stronger and longer! It's night and day! I have to make myself leave the gym. Maybe a protein shake or carbs does the same thing but I am cutting Right now and not ready to try that.
My BCAA's is from ON, it has Glutamine in it. I noticed a lot of BCAA's do not have glutamine. So maybe it's the Glutamine. I was doing 4 sets of 10 and I was exhausted half way through. Now I start with a 20 rep warm up and add weigh on each set. Hour or so later I have to tell myself that I am over training. Big difference.I came to the opposite conclusion regarding BCAAs. I train fasted am and found the only thing that improves my workout & recovery is sugar in my intra.
It's so funny how different people are. My experience is the complete opposite. That being said, if I ever find myself with the time to have a meal before I train, I wouldn't even bother with them.Personally, I think BCAAs are highly overrated. I train fasted and have never experienced any improvement in muscle mass, endurance, recovery, or energy. I've done many experiments with it over the years and always came back to the conclusion it is just spending money for no reason.
i'm with you....I've shared the story before but I went 3 months using a bcaa product intraworkout, didn't think it did much....stopped using the product and found my endurance and energy levels drop within the workout much faster...went back to using aminosI came off of BCAA and fatigued pretty fast during my fasted workouts. I can tell you that while drinking BCAAS during my workout I can train harder, stronger and longer! It's night and day! I have to make myself leave the gym. Maybe a protein shake or carbs does the same thing but I am cutting Right now and not ready to try that.
their top 10 best is just as bad as the bad list....tells me everything..This article makes a pretty strong (and somewhat disappointing) case against 12 popular supplements. What do you think?
The 12 Most Overrated Supplements | LIVESTRONG.COM
Whats ur natural protein intake?i'm with you....I've shared the story before but I went 3 months using a bcaa product intraworkout, didn't think it did much....stopped using the product and found my endurance and energy levels drop within the workout much faster...went back to using aminos
I've also noticed that it doesn't matter if it's bcaa, bcaa+eaa, eaa, and intraworkout cocktail product....it provides a big boost over just water during a workout.....muscle gains or reduced soreness are kind of a side note, if I can hit the 12th set harder with a product than without, that's a product I want to use
200g a dayWhats ur natural protein intake?
that's where articles and some studies lack.....they are only looking at products for one use and not the fact that there are other factors of why a product or diet may be useful to someoneI disagree with tribulus. It might not increase testosterone but it definitely increases libido and performance/stamina. At least for me.