Arimistane; Do you consider it 'natty or not?'

csline

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Not anabolic or androgenic in nature, so I vote yes. Even if it indirectly raises testosterone, which I haven't seen studies showing that it does, it still is not anabolic.
 
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Well it is a hormone. Although it is non suppressive, not anabolic, nor androgenic. I consider it natty but since it is a hormone, this is a matter of perspective. IMO if you consider dhea natural then yes this should also be considered natural; saying how this is a derivative of 7keto-dhea.
 
Aleksandar37

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That term doesn't mean anything anymore. Just use the tools that you're personally comfortable with using and don't worry about other people's opinions.
 
john.patterson

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Arimistane falls into the natty category in my book, but at the end of the day it really doesn't matter. If you're doing a show or competition you need to be aware of the banned substances and products, and other than that it really makes no difference. The "natty or not" debate will live on for forever but at the end of the day it's you vs. you
 
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Agreed. It's natty to me as well. If you don't have to do pct afterwards and if it doesn't screw with your hormones then it's natty.
 
The_Old_Guy

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That term doesn't mean anything anymore. Just use the tools that you're personally comfortable with using and don't worry about other people's opinions.
Agree. That term is useless - if it takes 10,000 tons of a bug fungus to extract a bottle of Cordyceps - how in the heck is that "Natural"? No human could ever eat that much fungus in the real world. Poison Ivy salads are also natural...
 
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