PA dosage question

[ZachH]

Whats the max recommended dose of PA a day to get best strength and mass gains from it? Been taking like 1.5 scoops of tr1umph a day is that enough or need additional from say muscletech phospha muscle?

 

[VaughnTrue]

most people dose it at 750-1.5g/day of PA for best effects. anything 1g or over is awesome IMO

 

[jameschoi]

Stuff is so cheap I take 3 tbsp before and after a workout.

 

[VO2Maxima]

1.5 scoops Tr1umph is just shy of 1.4g phosphatidic acid. I haven't seen anything on where the point of diminishing returns is, but considering most products are using 750mg, that's a big dose. You could try adding more if you wanted, see if you notice a difference, but I'd say you're more than fine with what you're using now.

 

[ZachH]

Sweet thanks fellas. Got 5 tubs of tr1umph so ill see how it helps out the gains!!

 

[DennisTheDane]

Danes would be the Zen master to ask!

 

[Danes]

Danes would be the Zen master to ask!

Thanks brother

I would say more is better. (Not only my own experience, but other guys too).

 

[DennisTheDane]

Thanks brother

I would say more is better. (Not only my own experience, but other guys too).

How to take ? <cycle it or just take it pwo or smth

 

[Danes]

How to take ? <cycle it or just take it pwo or smth

I would definitely take it prior workout.
Exogenous PA (supplementation) + (Endogenous PA (own production) = better effect

 

[DennisTheDane]

I would definitely take it prior workout.
Exogenous PA (supplementation) + (Endogenous PA (own production) = better effect

Wich one would you reccomend

 

[Danes]

Wich one would you reccomend

We do "produce" PA while working out but its even better if we also supplementing with PA too.
So take it prior workout and no need to cycle it actually

 

[DennisTheDane]

We do "produce" PA while working out but its even better if we also supplementing with PA too.
So take it prior workout and no need to cycle it actually

Yeah what i mean is what brand would you choose

 

[Danes]

Yeah what i mean is what brand would you choose

Ah haha sorry buddy.
My favorite is definitely Biotest Micro-PA.

 

[DennisTheDane]

Ah haha sorry buddy.
My favorite is definitely Biotest Micro-PA.

How many caps a day...Seems pretty pricey

 

[HTGduck]

Ah haha sorry buddy.
My favorite is definitely Biotest Micro-PA.

Ouch... $65 for 20 servings

 

[DennisTheDane]

Ouch... $65 for 20 servings

Yeah..The must be a cheaper efficiat way to get it

 

[Danes]

How many caps a day...Seems pretty pricey

It is pricey but best single cap PA on the marked.
You could just take soy granules

 

[DennisTheDane]

It is pricey but best single cap PA on the marked.
You could just take soy granules

It would only last 5 days if you mega dose it ???

 

[Danes]

It would only last 5 days if you mega dose it ???

Yes but it was awesome.
You can do it cheaper like taking Fearn or optima soy lecithin granules. It will give you PA and other phospholipids.

 

[Plex78]

Be careful if you buy Bio-Test it is know to burn a big hole in your wallet for its effect

 

[Danes]

Be careful if you buy Bio-Test it is know to burn a big hole in your wallet for its effect

Biotest is pricey but also one of few legit brands.

 

[jameschoi]

Biotest is pricey but also one of few legit brands.

How much Fearns soy leth would you have to take to equal biotest of 6 caps a day.

 

[Danes]

How much Fearns soy leth would you have to take to equal biotest of 6 caps a day.

In soy granules, its about 4-7% pure PA.
I believe Fearn and Optima has even 7%.
1000mg ganules = 70mg PA.
10g granules= 700mg PA

I need to mention Granules contain other phospholipids and those have similar effect as PA.

 

[mbonheur]

Fearn and Optima simply assume average values, no way to know exact PA in soy lecithin granules as it is not standardized. I would always take the lowest assumption and go from there, so 4%.

 

[jameschoi]

I had 12 tbsp of soy leth yesterday, felt like near death just as I was going to bed lol.

 

[Danes]

Fearn and Optima simply assume average values, no way to know exact PA in soy lecithin granules as it is not standardized. I would always take the lowest assumption and go from there, so 4%.

Good quality such as Fearn and Optima, it may have even higher than 7%

 

[Danes]

I had 12 tbsp of soy leth yesterday, felt like near death just as I was going to bed lol.

12 ?????? Haha

 

[mbonheur]

Good quality such as Fearn and Optima, it may have even higher than 7%

Yes, or not. We cannot know. It is not standardized. We only know that there are 97-98% phosphadites. And there are other options out there than Fearns, just look whether it has 97-98% phosphadites. Btw. in my country, the pharma grade soy lecithin clearly indicates between 4-8% while in other countries it is allowed to put guesstimates on their label based on averages.

 

[jameschoi]

12 ?????? Haha

I will try 10 tbsp a day of soy leth for 30 days and see what happens.

 

[jameschoi]

Does this count for soy leth....

Soy and soy phytoestrogens: It goes without saying that you won't take your girlfriends pill, right? So why do you even remotely consider eating soy, let alone supplementing soy phytoestrogens? "I've seen soy consumption cause impotency in numerous patients." - Dr. John Crisler (male hormone expert) on my facebook wall in response to Jefferson. 2012; avoid feeding soy to your male offspring at all costs (Sherill. 2010; Leraiki. 2011; Siepmann. 2011)
http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2012/05/natural-hormone-optimization-made.html