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  1. AI's don't help boost test..just stop test you have from converting to estrogen
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by cobri66 View Post
    AI's don't help boost test..just stop test you have from converting to estrogen
    Why do changes start to bw more dramatic once an AI is introduced?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Johnold View Post
    Why do changes start to bw more dramatic once an AI is introduced?
    estrogen can cause puffiness, bloating....an AI + a cortisol inhibiter are great additions to a cut...or recomp.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  4. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    estrogen can cause puffiness, bloating....an AI + a cortisol inhibiter are great additions to a cut...or recomp.
    Any products of the likes you like or know of that are quality?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Johnold View Post
    Any products of the likes you like or know of that are quality?
    what is your primary goal? to look tighter, leaner-maybe cut a few lbs...or gain some muscle[lbs]... or is strength the main goal...or maybe just more prowess in the bedroom?
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  6. Slight Muscle preservation or building and tighter, leaner. My fav stuff WAY back in the days were Original ABE & ERASE PRO but that came to a burning stop. Then Myokem came out and took over. Waiting on them to relaunch but honestly im thinking of pulling the trigger and going dark side.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Johnold View Post
    Slight Muscle preservation or building and tighter, leaner. My fav stuff WAY back in the days were Original ABE & ERASE PRO but that came to a burning stop. Then Myokem came out and took over. Waiting on them to relaunch but honestly im thinking of pulling the trigger and going dark side.
    if you don't mind transdermals... I would highly recommend iron legion virtus+invictus.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  8. Doesnt seem like much around.

    BigT, you ever use any Hi-Tech products?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Johnold View Post
    Doesnt seem like much around.

    BigT, you ever use any Hi-Tech products?
    not many from hi-tech, but lots from their umbrella companys.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  10. APS seems like their favorite of the side companies IMO.
  11. Best natty test booster?


    I love Arimiplex and Estrogenix 2nd Gen from HiTech
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by cobri66 View Post
    I love Arimiplex and Estrogenix 2nd Gen from HiTech
    Yeah? Whys that?

    Ive been wondering, which is stronger or i guess "better" Estrogenex 2nd Generation or Estrogenex Depot?

  13. I'd like to know more to on what I can take that will help me lean out, look tighter, basically keep as much muscle as possible, would love to add some slight muscle while cutting. But eh I'm in a deficit.
    I've got my assassinate, forslean and super7 yet to be opened.
    I've run Alphamax xt on a lean bulk and that was great.
    Even looked at OL ep1c and str3ngth adding kingsblood to the mix.

  14. Also when talking to OL they said ep1c has been discontinued.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Johnold View Post
    Yeah? Whys that?

    Ive been wondering, which is stronger or i guess "better" Estrogenex 2nd Generation or Estrogenex Depot?
    Not sure if stronger is term to use..difference between suicidal and non suicidal MOA
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by cobri66 View Post
    Not sure if stronger is term to use..difference between suicidal and non suicidal MOA
    Theres a difference?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Johnold View Post
    Theres a difference?
    Yes (although when talking about plants being suicidal or competitive...)

    Suicidal kills the actual Aromatase Enzyme that is responsible for converting T to E. Estrogen can only rise again when your body makes more enzymes - ie. Exemestane (Aromasin).

    Competitive just occupies the spot before Testosterone can - but enzyme count does not change. It eventually drops off and that is why "rebounding" E levels can occur if you stop/miss 1 or more doses - ie. Anastrozole (Arimidex).

  18. Nice. So I'd rather have a suicidal version. Both of them seem great tho. But suicidal is always stronger. Do they both also handle cortisol control aswell?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Johnold View Post
    Nice. So I'd rather have a suicidal version. Both of them seem great tho. But suicidal is always stronger. Do they both also handle cortisol control aswell?
    In the world of drugs, the competitive AI's are "stronger" - most people use 0.25-0.5mg of Arimidex. Whereas Aromasin is usually taken in 6.25-25mg amounts. And Aromasin is F'n EXPENSIVE compared to A-Dex (thanks Pfizer). But it's more elegant IMO - it's neutral or actually improves some health bio-markers.

    But again, when you're talking about OTC plants - good luck - who knows...

    And assuming you have a somewhat normal, stable life - why do you care about Cortisol? You can't build muscle or burn fat without it. It has a normal, 24hr cycle, inverse that of Melatonin. Unless you've had a DUTCH Urine Test showing abnormal levels, just eat and sleep well.

  20. Well i was talking about which is more favored or stronger between estrogenex 2nd gen or depot...

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Johnold View Post
    Well i was talking about which is more favored or stronger between estrogenex 2nd gen or depot...
    Then you need to seek out as much bloodwork as possible. Probably rarer than Unicorn horns...

  22. Haha what?

    I wonder how one of those estrogenex products would fair when paired with decabolin or hell even the natty route of bulasterone.

  23. Id like to pair Bulasterone & Estrogenex 2nd Generation.

    Or Estrogenex Depot. 2nd Generation is said to be stronger tho.


    I dont know...

  24. Check out Arimiplex...most comprehensive PCT that HiTech makes
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  25. Yeah but you dont really need a pct with it?
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