CLA anyone taking it?
- 03-17-2017, 03:12 PM
- 03-17-2017, 03:15 PM
Studies show it works. Just another case of if the effect is worth the price. It doesn't do any harm, so if you can afford it you might as well
03-17-2017, 03:17 PM
03-17-2017, 03:17 PM
SNS CLA extreme would do you right OP. Cost effective and properly dosed.
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03-17-2017, 03:18 PM
ya I take it just to take it .. I also take garcinia cambogia to aid in the fat burning process. For those who take it how many grams/day ??
03-17-2017, 03:19 PM
I found a BOGO free deal for EVL Nutrition CLA 1000...180 caps at 1,000mg each, so a 60 day supply.... it was only $29 I think? So a 4 month supply for $30 was well worth it to me. If it only helps lower body fat by .5% the so be it, the value was worth it
03-17-2017, 03:19 PM
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03-17-2017, 03:43 PM
Yes and I like it. I've been taking it for about 3 months. You can get 90 caps 1000mg Tonalin for 12.99 on Amazon, which is pretty cheap.
It takes time to kick in, but I noticed after about 2 months I tended to be less likely to put on bodyfat and seemed to be more muscular/lean. Subtle but for about 13 dollars a month definitely worth it IMO. I use 4g/day.
Recent labs showed my HDL at 72 (very good), total cholesterol slightly elevated (eating a high sat fat diet). Some possibility CLA may lower HDL but mine is still fine.
03-17-2017, 03:53 PM
Most research is done on obese individuals. for the majority of us on here that does not correlate to us. Most of these people have BMI's over 25-30
Most of the doses are also at least 6g. And even in obese patients not much was seen or changed from a fatloss standpoint.
"A 3.4-g daily CLA supplementation for 1 y does not prevent weight or fat mass regain in a healthy obese population."
CLA does not decreases body weight as compared with safflower oil in overweight and obese male subjects. (4.5g Dose of CLA)
Given at a dose of 3.2 g/d, CLA produces a modest loss in body fat in humans.
whereas results in humans have been inconsistent.
The efficacy of long-term conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) supplementation on body composition in overweight and obese individuals: a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized clinical trials.
The evidence from RCTs does not convincingly show that CLA intake generates any clinically relevant effects on body composition on the long term.
you are much better spending your money on Yohimbine HCL or Forskolin 95 if you want some bulks. CLA is not really worth the merit or time.
03-17-2017, 03:57 PM
Solution brings up a good point. I'd say for the money you spend, you'll get more bang for your buck out of Forskolin 95% and Yohimbine.
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03-17-2017, 04:21 PM
Here's a December 2016 one that is full of fail as well...
Conjugated linoleic acid supplementation does not maximize motor performance and abdominal and trunk fat loss induced by aerobic training in overweight women
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03-17-2017, 06:46 PM
I started taking a few weeks ago but looks like I'll be stopping it thanks to this thread. A few less pills to take each day.
03-17-2017, 08:17 PM
There are much better things to use your money for. If you want help cutting, use something that's actually proven like: caffeine, ephedrine, yohimbe/alpha-y, forskolin, literally anything from EvoMuse ...
03-17-2017, 09:16 PM
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03-18-2017, 07:37 AM
CLA is good but not something you will see fast results with. It will be beneficial as you take it over time. I recommend it as a healthy fat that will slowly help u stay lean. Also has good overall health benefits
03-18-2017, 08:05 AM
I think you will find CLA Extreme to be priced very well
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03-19-2017, 10:46 AM
@The Solution... Is it true that forskolin is really only good for people with sub %10 BF? Also, what's the optimal dose (mg) and dosing protocol (times per day) for forskolin? Can it be ran with Yohimbine?
03-19-2017, 10:57 AM
CLA works really well for me.
03-19-2017, 11:08 AM
50-100mg split into two doses works great, and yes you can stack with Yohimbine HCL
Work up to .02mg/kg for Yohimbine upon waking in a fasted state
Dose 1 serving Forskolin in the AM and 1 in the PM (to hit 50-100mg) 50mg is a very heavily studied dose. Most on here can take upward to 100mg
Forskolin-95 What you always wanted to know
Please read here
03-20-2017, 08:08 PM
Can anyone comment on this guy's response?
From this CLA thread: CLA for FAT LOSS, BUT CAUSES FATTY LIVER?Never rely on a secondary source; ever moreso when it's written on a meta-study.
the whole ihealth thing is based off two conflicting papers - one in mice and another in rats. Neither included work in a human model or trial. Both species of rodent responded differently - the rats saw improved insulin sensitivity and lower liver fat while the mice responded oppositely.
There is evidence from Belury 2003 that CLA improves insulin sensitivity in humans, which in turn relates to body mass. This would imply that the rat model is more inline with human data.
The point? Not all species necessarily react identically to a given substance, and there is good support for the correlation of moderate CLA to insulin sensitivity and body mass.
I recently got cholesterol labs done. I do have a family history of higher cholesterol, AND I had been eating a high saturated fat diet on purpose in an attempt to increase testosterone levels. (BTW, there was no increase in my test levels, and I felt a lot worse/more sluggish w/ the high sat fat diet vs. high monounsat diet). My LDL was higher than optimal at 156, HDL was good at 72, Trig. at 68, and Total Chol. 242. Will be getting a retest after switching back to a lower sat fat diet. Taking CLA 4g/day for 3 months prior to test (no previous lipid bloodwork to compare it to.)
03-26-2017, 02:43 PM
@TheSolution I workout in the am and have been taking PA (Tr1umph) pwo... if I add Yohimbine would it be wasteful? I mean will the fat and kcals in the PA prevent the Yohimbine from releasing fat stores since I won't be taking it fasted?
03-26-2017, 02:46 PM
I'm going to amend my post above. Although I do think CLA (which I took for about 4 months) helped me with recomp, after reading this thread I started looking into the sides a bit more and noticed that increased fatigue was reported ... I actually have been having a lot of fatigue over the past 4 months, roughly coinciding with when I started the CLA, and was actually thinking it must be due to me getting older or something. I was feeling like just sitting/laying around during weekends due to being tired.
I decided to stop CLA almost a week ago and started feeling better within a few days and much better now. Also, I did have some joint stiffness/pain on CLA particularly at >4g/day.
So if you're having trouble with a recomp it might be worth adding temporarily, but watch for fatigue, which can creep up on you. I likely won't be taking it again as it's just not worth feeling tired all the time.
"You may feel unusually fatigued as a side effect following treatment with CLA. Increased fatigue may negatively affect your ability to remain active and attentive during your normal daily activities. You may also find that you need to sleep for longer periods of time than usual to feel refreshed."
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