Good mass gaining supplements for bulking?

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  1. Good mass gaining supplements for bulking?


    Hey guys, I've been lifting for a couple of years but I'm just now getting into supplements now that I'm In college. I'm starting an eight month bulk and I need some recommendations besides the clear muscle from muscleTech (which I'm not sure if it's even worth my time yet) I'm not too familiar with a lot of brands that aren't mainstream and I'm very open for suggestions and opinions if anyone were to give them!


  2. Steroids

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Studdscruggs View Post
    Steroids

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    I've always been curious but never been to sure about steroids because they are so disputed in the bodybuilding community and I would have no idea how or when or how much to even use. I'm 200 pounds at around 13 bf% right now and trying to get to 220 to 225 whilst not getting above 17 or 18 % would that be a kind of scenario where it would be helpful to start a cycle or would it be better to just stay natural?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Parkerw View Post
    I've always been curious but never been to sure about steroids because they are so disputed in the bodybuilding community and I would have no idea how or when or how much to even use. I'm 200 pounds at around 13 bf% right now and trying to get to 220 to 225 whilst not getting above 17 or 18 % would that be a kind of scenario where it would be helpful to start a cycle or would it be better to just stay natural?
    Stay natural as long as you can and do research on AAS, SARMS, and prohormones!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Studdscruggs View Post
    Stay natural as long as you can and do research on AAS, SARMS, and prohormones!
    Alright I'll do some research, lol I thought I recognized sarcasm for a minute. Is there any terrible side effects from steroids though? The only reason I would've considered it as an option is because one of my lifting buddies from my dorm uses and he doesn't seem to be abnormal outside of his workouts?
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  6. There can be loads of sides or not many atall, varying from testicular artophy to gyno, depending on what you take and how much! Months of research should be done before thinking about AAS! Stay natty, look up stuff a few good natty products PES anabeta elite, BLR follidrone 2.0, evomuse testruction! Anabolic shouldn't really be touched until you're over 21 at least! You could **** up your endocrine system even after that but you can really mess it up if you start banging hormones when your body hasn't even worked itself out yet! with a clean diet 220 from 200 can be done but not quickly unless you don't mind about putting fat on! Slow and steady with a clean diet and you might be able to gain 20lbs in a year without to much bf% gain

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Parkerw View Post
    Alright I'll do some research, lol I thought I recognized sarcasm for a minute. Is there any terrible side effects from steroids though? The only reason I would've considered it as an option is because one of my lifting buddies from my dorm uses and he doesn't seem to be abnormal outside of his workouts?
    Welcome to the forum. Just because your buddy in the dorms is being stupid doesn't mean you should follow along. When used correctly at the proper age, steroids can be safe. But if you're in college, you're definitely too young to be considering them. They are rarely cycled properly by younger individuals who don't have the knowledge and understanding of what they actually do. They are suppressive (meaning they shut down your bodies natural hormone production), and they can have serious long term side effects.

    If you're in college, you definitely don't need to be experimenting with steroids. Depending on your age and how long you've been training, I would keep it simple for now. Lifting weights and getting big is a long road, and there are no shortcuts. If you're new to lifting, I would keep it simple. Stick to the basics (protein powder, fish oil, preworkout, and creatine). Consider using a daily ergogenic product like Powermax XT which will cover your daily creatine needs, as well as provide hydration, endurance, and muscle fullness.

    Aside from the basics you shouldn't need much else. Track your calories and make sure you're eating enough. Lift heavy and often. And most importantly, don't look for shortcuts.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Parkerw View Post
    Hey guys, I've been lifting for a couple of years but I'm just now getting into supplements now that I'm In college. I'm starting an eight month bulk and I need some recommendations besides the clear muscle from muscleTech (which I'm not sure if it's even worth my time yet) I'm not too familiar with a lot of brands that aren't mainstream and I'm very open for suggestions and opinions if anyone were to give them!
    Clear Muscle? Save your money. A. Jacob Wilson seems to have never met a supplement he didn't like - and most other prominent researchers agree (in very respectfully couched replies when asked about his miraculous results). B. Even if it does do something, no way it does what his "study" says it does. C. You need to over-reach to see the possible benefits.

    FOOD!

    http://www.pbrc.edu/research-and-fac...oss-predictor/

    Use Internet Explorer and in put your data. At the bottom, change it to "Cal. Increase" and put in 500. How does 15lbs in 8 months sound? (for my old a$$ - younger may be better). It'll be up to you to manage where most of that goes: Muscle or Fat, by proper nutrition and training strategies. Dr. Lonnie Lowery usually gives the best case as 70/30 muscle to fat during a bulk.

  9. As far as supplements go, stick to the staples. These include protein, creatine, aminos, fish oil, multi vitamins, pre workout ... etc.

    There are supplements that you can be effective that fall in the "staple" category. One of my favorites is PowerMax XT. Includes a full dose (5g) of creatine mono and is an awesome stim free pre workout.

    That being said, I would (like a few others have suggested), stick to the staples and get your diet and training down. Once you have experience with solid staple supplements and start to learn your body and nail down your diet, then you can venture into natty supplements for your goals you want to achieve.

    Side note: a quick and easy way to gain mass is drink a lot of whole milk. Full of protein and calories.
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  10. Best thing for bulking is sticking to a good so called "clean" diet where you are going to feel like your forcing food down. Other supplements that are legal could help such as protein, creatine monohydrate, and CHAOS AND PAIN has a new product called Chemical 1 an Legendary which helped me put on good size. Another thing is adding high calorie things to your foods such as honey for example. Won't fill you up but give you extra calories.

  11. Before we can suggest supplements, we need more info.

    Age
    Weight
    TDEE
    Lifting Experience
    Type of Training
    Macro Breakdown
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by AntM1564 View Post
    Before we can suggest supplements, we need more info.

    Age
    Weight
    TDEE
    Lifting Experience
    Type of Training
    Macro Breakdown
    I'm 19 I weigh 200 pounds I am eating around 3400 calories a day which is a surplus of about 500 calories more than my maintenance. I shoot for around 300 grams protein 100 fat and 250 carbs I do a lot of bodybuilding movements but some powerlifting. I've been lifting for a good 3 1/2 years

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Juicedeez utz View Post
    There can be loads of sides or not many atall, varying from testicular artophy to gyno, depending on what you take and how much! Months of research should be done before thinking about AAS! Stay natty, look up stuff a few good natty products PES anabeta elite, BLR follidrone 2.0, evomuse testruction! Anabolic shouldn't really be touched until you're over 21 at least! You could **** up your endocrine system even after that but you can really mess it up if you start banging hormones when your body hasn't even worked itself out yet! with a clean diet 220 from 200 can be done but not quickly unless you don't mind about putting fat on! Slow and steady with a clean diet and you might be able to gain 20lbs in a year without to much bf% gain
    Jeez, I didn't know what all it did that's a little scary aha. Thanks, I'm not gonna touch them now it seems like it could mess me up for the rest of my life.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Parkerw View Post
    I'm 19 I weigh 200 pounds I am eating around 3400 calories a day which is a surplus of about 500 calories more than my maintenance. I shoot for around 300 grams protein 100 fat and 250 carbs I do a lot of bodybuilding movements but some powerlifting. I've been lifting for a good 3 1/2 years
    I made you 6' tall - 221 Bro! (with proper programming/periodization). Remember TDEE increases as muscle mass does.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by john.patterson View Post
    Welcome to the forum. Just because your buddy in the dorms is being stupid doesn't mean you should follow along. When used correctly at the proper age, steroids can be safe. But if you're in college, you're definitely too young to be considering them. They are rarely cycled properly by younger individuals who don't have the knowledge and understanding of what they actually do. They are suppressive (meaning they shut down your bodies natural hormone production), and they can have serious long term side effects.

    If you're in college, you definitely don't need to be experimenting with steroids. Depending on your age and how long you've been training, I would keep it simple for now. Lifting weights and getting big is a long road, and there are no shortcuts. If you're new to lifting, I would keep it simple. Stick to the basics (protein powder, fish oil, preworkout, and creatine). Consider using a daily ergogenic product like Powermax XT which will cover your daily creatine needs, as well as provide hydration, endurance, and muscle fullness.

    Aside from the basics you shouldn't need much else. Track your calories and make sure you're eating enough. Lift heavy and often. And most importantly, don't look for shortcuts.
    Thank you! I really just don't know a whole lot about supplements, been lifting for a while but I just started taking protein and preworkout last august and thought it would be good to take some more supps because they seem to be helping.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by The_Old_Guy View Post
    I made you 6' tall - 221 Bro! (with proper programming/periodization). Remember TDEE increases as muscle mass does.
    That's really cool! So hopefully none of those charts show me as obese by the end of the summer hahaha

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Parkerw View Post
    That's really cool! So hopefully none of those charts show me as obese by the end of the summer hahaha
    Like I said, 30% will probably be fat, even if you do it perfect. That's 6.3lbs - that's a 3 to 6 week cut. Easy.

    And it's just a formula - the most current one out there, but a formula none the less - YMMV.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Parkerw View Post
    Alright I'll do some research, lol I thought I recognized sarcasm for a minute. Is there any terrible side effects from steroids though? The only reason I would've considered it as an option is because one of my lifting buddies from my dorm uses and he doesn't seem to be abnormal outside of his workouts?
    I've been researching AAS/PHs myself and the potential side effects aren't that terrible... they can cause you to grow a pair of tits and can cause hair loss, infertility, liver disease, kidney disease, heart disease, testicle atrophy... it's a little harsher than your typical multivitamin.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Parkerw View Post
    Hey guys, I've been lifting for a couple of years but I'm just now getting into supplements now that I'm In college. I'm starting an eight month bulk and I need some recommendations besides the clear muscle from muscleTech (which I'm not sure if it's even worth my time yet) I'm not too familiar with a lot of brands that aren't mainstream and I'm very open for suggestions and opinions if anyone were to give them!
    While staying natural look into Anabeta elite. Definitely very beneficial as a natural supplement to help put on lean mass. If you are breaking into the game are good starting stack would be ABE/ergonine. A personal favorite of mine.
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  20. There are a ton of natural supplements that can help you but I strongly advise to just start with the staples until you get a feel of what staple products you like best and go from there.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Parkerw View Post
    I've always been curious but never been to sure about steroids because they are so disputed in the bodybuilding community and I would have no idea how or when or how much to even use. I'm 200 pounds at around 13 bf% right now and trying to get to 220 to 225 whilst not getting above 17 or 18 % would that be a kind of scenario where it would be helpful to start a cycle or would it be better to just stay natural?
    Crap, I would love to be 200lbs at 13% bf.
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  22. The nutrition advice has been golden and as others have said everyday ergogenic product will be a great start. For that you could look into powermax xt, ergonine, or Tr1umph.

  23. Thanks to everyone that gave me great advice! It makes me really happy to have finally found such an awesome community

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Parkerw View Post
    Thanks to everyone that gave me great advice! It makes me really happy to have finally found such an awesome community
    This forum is very different than other forums. It has a family feel to it. No bashing (unless it's needed lol). No question is a dumb question. As long as you are open to suggestions and are willing to learn, you will have a great experience.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Parkerw View Post
    Thanks to everyone that gave me great advice! It makes me really happy to have finally found such an awesome community
    Got to love the AM crowd. Nowhere else like it for sure. Trolls and aholes slip in but usually gone as fast as they come.
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  26. Good mass gaining supplements for bulking?


    Quote Originally Posted by Parkerw View Post
    Thanks to everyone that gave me great advice! It makes me really happy to have finally found such an awesome community
    So have you decided on what route you are going to take? I would love to help you in all areas. Get everything dialed in for you.
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  27. Move heavy ****.
    Eat a lot of "clean" food.
    Get a lot of rest.

    It's very simple really. Track your weight and take weekly progress pictures so you can get a true gauge on how your body composition is in terms of fat gain.

    Adjust calories based on these things. I shoot for 1lb a week or so when "bulking" and anything more then that, unless you're coming off of a competition prep is going to be water and fat (given post show rebound is a lot of intra cellular water as well.)

    After that's figured out. Multi vitamin. Fish oil. Protein (if you can get enough whole food.... Not just for easy meals)

    That will take you a while.
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    So have you decided on what route you are going to take? I would love to help you in all areas. Get everything dialed in for you.
    Definitely natural if that's what you mean lol. I think I've gotten everything dialed in for the most part, I weigh 210at 13 bf (I look leaner than when I started? I don't know if thats a problem because I'm eating 3100 cals a day?) as of this morning. I don't although if you had any tips on wether I should up my calories even more, I'm not gaining fat and idk if it would help if I was?

  29. Anabeta elite + tr1umph + xgels stack. Thank me later.
  30. Good mass gaining supplements for bulking?


    OP, arachidonic acid is the tried and true muscle building natty supplement. Many members have used Serious Nutrition Solutions X-gels with great results! The suggested stack above would do you right.

    Also another natty supplement is epicatechin. CEL EPI-Plex is a no prob blend so you know exactly how much you are getting. Very cost effective as well.
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