I've always been curious but never been to sure about steroids because they are so disputed in the bodybuilding community and I would have no idea how or when or how much to even use. I'm 200 pounds at around 13 bf% right now and trying to get to 220 to 225 whilst not getting above 17 or 18 % would that be a kind of scenario where it would be helpful to start a cycle or would it be better to just stay natural?
Stay natural as long as you can and do research on AAS, SARMS, and prohormones!
Alright I'll do some research, lol I thought I recognized sarcasm for a minute. Is there any terrible side effects from steroids though? The only reason I would've considered it as an option is because one of my lifting buddies from my dorm uses and he doesn't seem to be abnormal outside of his workouts?
with a clean diet 220 from 200 can be done but not quickly unless you don't mind about putting fat on! Slow and steady with a clean diet and you might be able to gain 20lbs in a year without to much bf% gain
Welcome to the forum. Just because your buddy in the dorms is being stupid doesn't mean you should follow along. When used correctly at the proper age, steroids can be safe. But if you're in college, you're definitely too young to be considering them. They are rarely cycled properly by younger individuals who don't have the knowledge and understanding of what they actually do. They are suppressive (meaning they shut down your bodies natural hormone production), and they can have serious long term side effects.
Clear Muscle? Save your money. A. Jacob Wilson seems to have never met a supplement he didn't like - and most other prominent researchers agree (in very respectfully couched replies when asked about his miraculous results). B. Even if it does do something, no way it does what his "study" says it does. C. You need to over-reach to see the possible benefits.
I'm 19 I weigh 200 pounds I am eating around 3400 calories a day which is a surplus of about 500 calories more than my maintenance. I shoot for around 300 grams protein 100 fat and 250 carbs I do a lot of bodybuilding movements but some powerlifting. I've been lifting for a good 3 1/2 years
Jeez, I didn't know what all it did that's a little scary aha. Thanks, I'm not gonna touch them now it seems like it could mess me up for the rest of my life.There can be loads of sides or not many atall, varying from testicular artophy to gyno, depending on what you take and how much! Months of research should be done before thinking about AAS! Stay natty, look up stuff a few good natty products PES anabeta elite, BLR follidrone 2.0, evomuse testruction! Anabolic shouldn't really be touched until you're over 21 at least! You could **** up your endocrine system even after that but you can really mess it up if you start banging hormones when your body hasn't even worked itself out yet!
I made you 6' tall - 221 Bro!
(with proper programming/periodization). Remember TDEE increases as muscle mass does.
Thank you! I really just don't know a whole lot about supplements, been lifting for a while but I just started taking protein and preworkout last august and thought it would be good to take some more supps because they seem to be helping.
That's really cool! So hopefully none of those charts show me as obese by the end of the summer hahahaI made you 6' tall - 221 Bro!
Like I said, 30% will probably be fat, even if you do it perfect. That's 6.3lbs - that's a 3 to 6 week cut. Easy.
I've been researching AAS/PHs myself and the potential side effects aren't that terrible... they can cause you to grow a pair of tits and can cause hair loss, infertility, liver disease, kidney disease, heart disease, testicle atrophy... it's a little harsher than your typical multivitamin.
While staying natural look into Anabeta elite. Definitely very beneficial as a natural supplement to help put on lean mass. If you are breaking into the game are good starting stack would be ABE/ergonine. A personal favorite of mine.
Crap, I would love to be 200lbs at 13% bf.
This forum is very different than other forums. It has a family feel to it. No bashing (unless it's needed lol). No question is a dumb question. As long as you are open to suggestions and are willing to learn, you will have a great experience.
Got to love the AM crowd. Nowhere else like it for sure. Trolls and aholes slip in but usually gone as fast as they come.
Since day 1 for me on AM.
So have you decided on what route you are going to take? I would love to help you in all areas. Get everything dialed in for you.
Definitely natural if that's what you mean lol. I think I've gotten everything dialed in for the most part, I weigh 210at 13 bf (I look leaner than when I started? I don't know if thats a problem because I'm eating 3100 cals a day?) as of this morning. I don't although if you had any tips on wether I should up my calories even more, I'm not gaining fat and idk if it would help if I was?
I meant supplement wise...have you decided on a product or stack to use? If your goal is to gain weight with little fat (lean bulk) and you are achieving that with your current caloric intake, I wouldn't change anything...yet. 3100 does seem low. Even for a clean bulk. But we all are different so if it's working for you right now then don't change it.
Big dog recommendation right there. I like it!
so thats basically Forskolin, PA and ArA stacked?
I haven't used tr1umph with those, but I do LOVE ABE with ArA.
A prohormone is a supplement?
If I never have to see that phrase from BBing.com on this site again it'll be a happy thing. Bodybuilding.com generally is full of retards. (Srs)
Yes sir! SNS creatine HCL caps are easily dosed and cost effective.
That's one of my favorite natty stacks. Soy lecithin from Tr1umph acts as an emulsifier for ArA, and LCLT (Tr1umph) and lodhra (ABE) prevent conversion of ArA into unfavorable metabolites.
This also. I haven't used Orig1n but the reviews all say how much it impacted appetite.
I always stacked ArA and ABE when I have both in hand. With the recent deals from Nutriverse though I went with a more cost effective route. Mtest stack with epiplex and ArA.
It's still 1-DHEA, no? Would be safest to run PCT.
