Please recommend what you consider the best otc fat burner considering
Appetite supression
Metabolism "revving"
Good energy
Etc
Much appreciated
Appetite supression
Metabolism "revving"
Good energy
Etc
Much appreciated
Good to see you CC - although you ARE Mr. Skinny.....and can actually eat rice and big macsI've heard tren works pretty well... or Clen....
Also first.
Much better now - shook out some of the fog. Im now at end of cycle weight, but I had a scary rebound the first week....which disappeared with adding water and some dandelion drops. Strength seems as good as ever. But I miss that epi feeling...Also curious about this.
How's PCT goin Tank999?
Big fan of DCP as part of a background....if you get what I'm sayingDcp for fatburning is unbeatable but won't suppress appetite tho
Ya I getchaBig fan of DCP as part of a background....if you get what I'm saying
I take some pre wo before an occasional tough wo, in AlphaBurn form, but otherwise it gives chills and sweats - hard to work a job while feeling like that, eh?Yohimbine for me..
I take two before cardio and two on my rest days..I take some pre wo before an occasional tough wo, in AlphaBurn form, but otherwise it gives chills and sweats - hard to work a job while feeling like that, eh?
I have a bottle of Thermo in my stash - couldn't resist after reading the logs and getting a deal - but I don't mind holding on to it for later if I find something with more of a kick in the pantaloonsMy only experience with fatburners are OG Alphamine and Forskolin. Been following along on the Thermogenisis logs and that seems pretty legit.
I'm looking into the Hi Tech stuff - seems hardcoreX2 alphaburn is awesome. Evomuse just came out with 3mg caps, maybe that would be better for you.
I still like norcodrene a lot. Also, Hitechs got some good ones too like stimerex,lipodrene and synadrene. Stimerex had me whacked out the other day haha
Yea I'm a larger guy(245-250ish) and one them stimerex pills had me faaaacked up haha.I'm looking into the Hi Tech stuff - seems hardcore
Unfortunately, this does not exist optimally in a single product these days.Please recommend what you consider the best otc fat burner considering
Appetite supression
Metabolism "revving"
Good energy
Etc
Much appreciated
Yea a lot of people will do an EC stack. I like norcodrene and shift by pes as well though.The most common recommendation you will get is EC stack, but I tend to enjoy Ign1te better.
This was in comparison to cold exposure ie. Brown Adipose Tissue activation, which you need to be BAT+ to even employ - doesn't work on BAT- peeps, and is only good for about +70kcals extra.ephedrine lead to an increase in blood glucose (probably subsequent to increased glyconeogenesis), cold exposure did not
ephedrine lead to significant increases in lactic acid levels (corresponding to increases in glucose + glucose oxidation), cold exposure did not
ephedrine lead to profound increases in β-hydroxybutyrate (increased ketone productions from fat), cold exposure did not
ephedrine increased serum non-esterified fatty acid (NEFA) concentrations (due to increased lipolysis), cold exposure did not
ephedrine elevated insulin production (probably due to stress induced insulin resistance), cold exposure did not (p = 0.29)
ephedrine lead to highly significant (p < 0.001) increases in C-reactive peptide, cold exposure elicited "only" significant elevations (p = 0.005)
ephedrine produced already highly significant increases in noripenephrine levels, those were even more pronounced upon cold exposure
ephedrine lead to statistical significant increases in thyroid hormone Total T3 (+14%, p = 0.026) and Free T4 (+19%, p = 0.014), cold exposure did not
ephedrine lead to a profound (-22%) and statistical significant (p = 0.007) drop in ghrelin ("hunger hormone" and metabolic regulator), cold exposure did not
Its an expression dude - implying no prescription needed...You can get Clen and use 20mcg twice a day and cycle up. Also, GW (Cardarine) is a my favorites for cardio enhancement. For an Anabolics Mind, the term Over The Counter just doesnt apply anymore. No one buys from counters. All on-line. Looking at the cloud right now....
On a side note chronic ephedrine use significantly down regulates brown fat activity in humans. Food for thought.Some of what Ephedrine does, leading to about a +150kcal/day extra energy burned:
This was in comparison to cold exposure ie. Brown Adipose Tissue activation, which you need to be BAT+ to even employ - doesn't work on BAT- peeps, and is only good for about +70kcals extra.
So if you go to a local Pharmacy and they have Primatene behind the counter - rejoice!
What strain of Kratom suppresses your appetite?PES Shift is the only thing that has even remotely dulled my appetite (Kratom is actually the only thing that kills it)
SNS for bulk yohimbine 2.5 is the cheapest way to go, or they are just about to release a bulk alpha y product too if you cant handle normal y
TTA-500 is another unique one. Bloats me a bit while im on it but the resutls after are great (kind of a mind game)
OG alphamine was great but since the reformulations Id stay away from alphamine (not even a burner anymore) or norcodrene as the feedback is terrible
Have yet to try DCP but ive always had great results with evomuse products and will be giving it a go myself next time its avaialable
About to try out OL bloodshred raw. have heard ignite is a stim bomb but havent seen anyone with impressive results.
this, combined with Invictus would be AMAZINGDCP/AlphaBurn combo deal coming next week.
Damn that sucks, I only use it PWO but still..On a side note chronic ephedrine use significantly down regulates brown fat activity in humans. Food for thought.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25725625/
Oh...I already pushed for the DCP, Invictus combo! It is the obvious choice. Also OxyMax XT for the energy/feel good component along with the Yohimbe extract and F95.this, combined with Invictus would be AMAZING
But people are either BAT+ or BAT- If you're BAT- you get no benefit from it. Even if your BAT+ you only get a 70kcal extra burn - I'll take the 150 instead. I don't recall anyone being disappointed with the use of Ephedrine for fat loss.Damn that sucks, I only use it PWO but still..
I think I'm gonna run Thermo next. Right now I'm doing dcp/abliderate/ammo/brite and I'll see where that gets me first.Oh...I already pushed for the DCP, Invictus combo! It is the obvious choice. Also OxyMax XT for the energy/feel good component along with the Yohimbe extract and F95.
I think it is time for OP to make his choice as he has heard all the top options. What is it going to be?
That's why I like Invicuts, works well on it's own, but it can also easily be stacked.lol I agree , it's like PWOs and they tell you to stack it with something else if you want that pump. So basically my fat burner is actually 3 or 4 different products and my PWO is at least two.
I'll need a lot of money to snort that much stuff a day. From what it sounds like, there is no single good fat burner, that won't potentially kill you. I guess you have to pay to play
Good to know, thank you. I have been looking to trying it out.That's why I like Invicuts, works well on it's own, but it can also easily be stacked.
Everything we do to lose weight can cause spikes in Cortisol...that throws the breaks on fat loss.
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