Best Fat Burner

[Tank999]

Please recommend what you consider the best otc fat burner considering
Appetite supression
Metabolism "revving"
Good energy
Etc

Much appreciated

 

[Tank999]

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[ChocolateClen]

I've heard tren works pretty well... or Clen....
Also first.

 

[SFreed]

Also curious about this.

How's PCT goin Tank999?

 

[Tank999]

I've heard tren works pretty well... or Clen....
Also first.

Good to see you CC - although you ARE Mr. Skinny.....and can actually eat rice and big macs
Now look at the question. - otc

 

[Tank999]

Also curious about this.

How's PCT goin Tank999?

Much better now - shook out some of the fog. Im now at end of cycle weight, but I had a scary rebound the first week....which disappeared with adding water and some dandelion drops. Strength seems as good as ever. But I miss that epi feeling...

 

[rtmilburn]

Dcp for fatburning is unbeatable but won't suppress appetite tho

 

[BEAST73]

Yohimbine for me..

 

[Tank999]

Dcp for fatburning is unbeatable but won't suppress appetite tho

Big fan of DCP as part of a background....if you get what I'm saying

 

[rtmilburn]

Big fan of DCP as part of a background....if you get what I'm saying

Ya I getcha

 

[Tank999]

Yohimbine for me..

I take some pre wo before an occasional tough wo, in AlphaBurn form, but otherwise it gives chills and sweats - hard to work a job while feeling like that, eh?

 

[BEAST73]

I take some pre wo before an occasional tough wo, in AlphaBurn form, but otherwise it gives chills and sweats - hard to work a job while feeling like that, eh?

I take two before cardio and two on my rest days..

 

[SFreed]

My only experience with fatburners are OG Alphamine and Forskolin. Been following along on the Thermogenisis logs and that seems pretty legit.

 

[wesb2387]

X2 alphaburn is awesome. Evomuse just came out with 3mg caps, maybe that would be better for you.

I still like norcodrene a lot. Also, Hitechs got some good ones too like stimerex,lipodrene and synadrene. Stimerex had me whacked out the other day haha

 

[Tank999]

My only experience with fatburners are OG Alphamine and Forskolin. Been following along on the Thermogenisis logs and that seems pretty legit.

I have a bottle of Thermo in my stash - couldn't resist after reading the logs and getting a deal - but I don't mind holding on to it for later if I find something with more of a kick in the pantaloons

 

[Tank999]

X2 alphaburn is awesome. Evomuse just came out with 3mg caps, maybe that would be better for you.

I still like norcodrene a lot. Also, Hitechs got some good ones too like stimerex,lipodrene and synadrene. Stimerex had me whacked out the other day haha

I'm looking into the Hi Tech stuff - seems hardcore

 

[wesb2387]

I'm looking into the Hi Tech stuff - seems hardcore

Yea I'm a larger guy(245-250ish) and one them stimerex pills had me faaaacked up haha.

Actually they all had me pretty hyped up but, the stimerex reigned supreme.

 

[Ricky10]

Please recommend what you consider the best otc fat burner considering
Appetite supression
Metabolism "revving"
Good energy
Etc

Much appreciated

Unfortunately, this does not exist optimally in a single product these days.
To get the best of both worlds, I would combine Performax OxyMaxt XT and Evomuse DCP.

If you really want to go the next step, I would add in Iron Legion Invictus

You will be golden!

 

[thebigt]

original burn xtreme for energy...thermogenesis for fat burning/curbing appetite/feel good,mood!!!

I take 1 burn extreme in morning to shake the fog off, then 2 thermogenesis mid afternoon!!!

 

[Jebrook]

I honestly haven't used a ton of fat burners. ECA stack works great for appetite suppression. Incinderine was a pretty good all around stimmed fat burner. Ignit3 has been my favorite all around stimmed thermogenic fat burner. Very clean and smooth energy and increased metabolism and decent appetite suppression. Supernova and Brite were a fun combo to lean up a bit but not appetite suppressants. I'm now looking forward to the first fat burner from OL UK. Sup3r Shred is very similar in action and effects to Cardarine. It's mechanism of action is PPAR delta agonism so it won't be a big appetite suppressant either but it should be awesome for cutting and have a host of other health benefits as well.

 

[Daycrawler]

EC for me. I use Focus XT plus ephedrine(bronkaid) and it's awesome.

Any caffeine will work, I just like my combo of noots and Ephedrine.

Bloodshed WAR and RAW were also good stuff from OL, but don't take those with Ephedrine.

 

[Robert5891]

OG iForce Dexaprine with DMAA
Stimerex Hardcore
Blue Star Blade

 

[ma70]

EC + DCP or Caffeine + Yohimbine/Alphaburn + DCP. Add forskolin for a luxury (LBM preservation), and Invictus for cortisol control.

 

[Tylerclee]

The most common recommendation you will get is EC stack, but I tend to enjoy Ign1te better.

 

[LeanEngineer]

The most common recommendation you will get is EC stack, but I tend to enjoy Ign1te better.

Yea a lot of people will do an EC stack. I like norcodrene and shift by pes as well though.

 

[Alex281]

Ignit3 or Bloodshr3d
Sup3r Shred
Lipomorph or DCP

 

[booneman77]

PES Shift is the only thing that has even remotely dulled my appetite (Kratom is actually the only thing that kills it)

SNS for bulk yohimbine 2.5 is the cheapest way to go, or they are just about to release a bulk alpha y product too if you cant handle normal y

TTA-500 is another unique one. Bloats me a bit while im on it but the resutls after are great (kind of a mind game)

OG alphamine was great but since the reformulations Id stay away from alphamine (not even a burner anymore) or norcodrene as the feedback is terrible

Have yet to try DCP but ive always had great results with evomuse products and will be giving it a go myself next time its avaialable

About to try out OL bloodshred raw. have heard ignite is a stim bomb but havent seen anyone with impressive results.

 

[VO2Maxima]

Is that your priority order? With an emphasis on appetite suppression, I'd go either Bloodshr3d Raw or EC. Bloodshr3d will give a good energy kick with caffeine, eria jarensis, j. regia, and rauwolscine too. Then beyond the thermogenic properties, and the rest of the formula is geared towards lipolysis.

 

[HIT4ME]

There are some REALLY great recommendations in here.

In my experience, you can look at my log, and here's what I think. Ephedrine/Caffeine/Alpha-Y is your best "appetite reduction/Energy creating" combo. It just works, it's cheap, it's tried and true and quite honestly - every burner on the market is using that as a gold standard. Many actually have slight twists and are good in their own way - but for money, results, and just being down and dirty - that's the place to start. I say Alpha-Y because I can't tolerate regular Y.

Next, the burner that has shown me short term results, IMO, is DCP. Nothing beats it for acute results.

Third, the long-term burner I really wish I could afford 365 is Brite. Some people claim it has dramatic acute effects, but I don't see that - it does have a long term building effect for me and after a couple months on it I do feel warmth.

If you are dieting for a long time, IMO, Epitome should be in your arsenal to help with leptin control.

Then there are notable mentions that can be stacked, intelligently, with the above: Shift, 7-Keto, Green Tea, Forskolin.

Best bang for the buck, if you're on a limited budget, is going to be ECY/DCP and that's it.

 

[AntM1564]

OxyMax XT if your not only looking for a great fat burner and appetite suppressant, but also if you're looking for something that will help elevate your mood and well being. Dieting is tough can can take a toll on one's mental state. The ingredients in Oxymax XT work together to not only burn fat, but help create a euphoric feeling as well.

 

[jesus_sanchez]

You can get Clen and use 20mcg twice a day and cycle up. Also, GW (Cardarine) is a my favorites for cardio enhancement. For an Anabolics Mind, the term Over The Counter just doesnt apply anymore. No one buys from counters. All on-line. Looking at the cloud right now....

 

[The_Old_Guy]

Some of what Ephedrine does, leading to about a +150kcal/day extra energy burned:

ephedrine lead to an increase in blood glucose (probably subsequent to increased glyconeogenesis), cold exposure did not
ephedrine lead to significant increases in lactic acid levels (corresponding to increases in glucose + glucose oxidation), cold exposure did not
ephedrine lead to profound increases in β-hydroxybutyrate (increased ketone productions from fat), cold exposure did not
ephedrine increased serum non-esterified fatty acid (NEFA) concentrations (due to increased lipolysis), cold exposure did not
ephedrine elevated insulin production (probably due to stress induced insulin resistance), cold exposure did not (p = 0.29)
ephedrine lead to highly significant (p < 0.001) increases in C-reactive peptide, cold exposure elicited "only" significant elevations (p = 0.005)
ephedrine produced already highly significant increases in noripenephrine levels, those were even more pronounced upon cold exposure
ephedrine lead to statistical significant increases in thyroid hormone Total T3 (+14%, p = 0.026) and Free T4 (+19%, p = 0.014), cold exposure did not
ephedrine lead to a profound (-22%) and statistical significant (p = 0.007) drop in ghrelin ("hunger hormone" and metabolic regulator), cold exposure did not

This was in comparison to cold exposure ie. Brown Adipose Tissue activation, which you need to be BAT+ to even employ - doesn't work on BAT- peeps, and is only good for about +70kcals extra.

So if you go to a local Pharmacy and they have Primatene behind the counter - rejoice!

 

[jesus_sanchez]

Holy Grail

 

[Tank999]

You can get Clen and use 20mcg twice a day and cycle up. Also, GW (Cardarine) is a my favorites for cardio enhancement. For an Anabolics Mind, the term Over The Counter just doesnt apply anymore. No one buys from counters. All on-line. Looking at the cloud right now....

Its an expression dude - implying no prescription needed...

 

[janson_kaniaz]

Where do you guys source Ephedrine?

 

[jesus_sanchez]

Oh I know. I was just highlighting how EVERYTHING is available these days. Over the counter is even a chore. Just an observation. Peace!

 

[jesus_sanchez]

Walgreens has Broncaid.

 

[dsade]

DCP/AlphaBurn combo deal coming next week.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Some of what Ephedrine does, leading to about a +150kcal/day extra energy burned:



This was in comparison to cold exposure ie. Brown Adipose Tissue activation, which you need to be BAT+ to even employ - doesn't work on BAT- peeps, and is only good for about +70kcals extra.

So if you go to a local Pharmacy and they have Primatene behind the counter - rejoice!

On a side note chronic ephedrine use significantly down regulates brown fat activity in humans. Food for thought.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25725625/

 

[Fitfactory]

PES Shift is the only thing that has even remotely dulled my appetite (Kratom is actually the only thing that kills it)

SNS for bulk yohimbine 2.5 is the cheapest way to go, or they are just about to release a bulk alpha y product too if you cant handle normal y

TTA-500 is another unique one. Bloats me a bit while im on it but the resutls after are great (kind of a mind game)

OG alphamine was great but since the reformulations Id stay away from alphamine (not even a burner anymore) or norcodrene as the feedback is terrible

Have yet to try DCP but ive always had great results with evomuse products and will be giving it a go myself next time its avaialable

About to try out OL bloodshred raw. have heard ignite is a stim bomb but havent seen anyone with impressive results.

What strain of Kratom suppresses your appetite?

 

[delsolrob]

DCP/AlphaBurn combo deal coming next week.

this, combined with Invictus would be AMAZING

 

[made2last]

Like previous poster said, everything is bought online now, so what's the best supp to lose fat?

 

[made2last]

On a side note chronic ephedrine use significantly down regulates brown fat activity in humans. Food for thought.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25725625/

Damn that sucks, I only use it PWO but still..

 

[Ricky10]

this, combined with Invictus would be AMAZING

Oh...I already pushed for the DCP, Invictus combo! It is the obvious choice. Also OxyMax XT for the energy/feel good component along with the Yohimbe extract and F95.

I think it is time for OP to make his choice as he has heard all the top options. What is it going to be?

 

[The_Old_Guy]

Damn that sucks, I only use it PWO but still..

But people are either BAT+ or BAT- If you're BAT- you get no benefit from it. Even if your BAT+ you only get a 70kcal extra burn - I'll take the 150 instead. I don't recall anyone being disappointed with the use of Ephedrine for fat loss.

 

[Tank999]

Oh...I already pushed for the DCP, Invictus combo! It is the obvious choice. Also OxyMax XT for the energy/feel good component along with the Yohimbe extract and F95.

I think it is time for OP to make his choice as he has heard all the top options. What is it going to be?

I think I'm gonna run Thermo next. Right now I'm doing dcp/abliderate/ammo/brite and I'll see where that gets me first.

 

[made2last]

Damn, I'm not looking to run 3 different supps at a time for fatloss, I take enough supps as is

 

[S.Dedication]

lol I agree , it's like PWOs and they tell you to stack it with something else if you want that pump. So basically my fat burner is actually 3 or 4 different products and my PWO is at least two.

I'll need a lot of money to snort that much stuff a day. From what it sounds like, there is no single good fat burner, that won't potentially kill you. I guess you have to pay to play

 

[delsolrob]

lol I agree , it's like PWOs and they tell you to stack it with something else if you want that pump. So basically my fat burner is actually 3 or 4 different products and my PWO is at least two.

I'll need a lot of money to snort that much stuff a day. From what it sounds like, there is no single good fat burner, that won't potentially kill you. I guess you have to pay to play

That's why I like Invicuts, works well on it's own, but it can also easily be stacked.

Everything we do to lose weight can cause spikes in Cortisol...that throws the breaks on fat loss.

 

[S.Dedication]

That's why I like Invicuts, works well on it's own, but it can also easily be stacked.

Everything we do to lose weight can cause spikes in Cortisol...that throws the breaks on fat loss.

Good to know, thank you. I have been looking to trying it out.