Everyone responds different...
Ran anafus for 8-weeks and went up 10lbs, but I was eating a lot! Anafuse is also proprietary blend.
Ran Legendary by C&P (open label), another epicat/lax combo, I literally ran 5-bottles and took the max dose, it didn't do anything for me.
Ran follidrone 2.0, and it provided a nice recomp affect
Ran X Gels, they gave me DOMS so bad I had to stop 2-3 weeks in
ABE, solid, comparable to anafuse.