Assuming diet is on point, are there any effective ones that are worth it? What ones do people notice effects with? Was thinking of PES Shift.
and my personal favorite, TTA-500.alpha-y
Evomuse (anything)
sns lean edge
sns reduce xt
I'd agree with this. Sns reduce xt would be my go to if i'm looking for something non stim to help me cut down and get shredded.alpha-y
Evomuse (anything)
sns lean edge
sns reduce xt
Have you even used them?OL UK SUP3R-7
OL UK SUP3R-SHRED
I like yohimbine too, but OP did specify non-stim.I have seen decent to better results from both forskolin and yohimbine, depending on what brand I used.
To be fair, super 7 is a high dosed 7 keto product so it wouldn't be hard to figure out what sort of results are likelyHave you even used them?
I mostly meant that for Supershred. I've tried transdermal 7-keto with success, and assuming SEDDS does anything, I am sure your 7 keto will be fine.To be fair, super 7 is a high dosed 7 keto product so it wouldn't be hard to figure out what sort of results are likely
Fair, nobody will have any experience with that solo yet.I mostly meant that for Supershred. I've tried transdermal 7-keto with success, and assuming SEDDS does anything, I am sure your 7 keto will be fine.
Yup. Just thought it was weird someone posted up a supp that they have never tried before without even any anecdotal evidence.Fair, nobody will have any experience with that solo yet.
thebigt knows what he's talking about! A very experienced and respected veteran member here on AM. Thanks for the support!sns has good products at a good price which = great, imo!!!
also arimistane can be had very cheap-under $20 for 90 count bottle, and is very good at leaning out, but beware it has been reported to drop libido and cause achy joints in some!!!
I have some of the super 11 kt to use in the futureUsed 1 bottle of Olympus UK Sup3r-11.... loved it. Have another bottle ready (ty bogo sales), can't wait to use it.
Good suggestions but all that evomuse stuff are ampk activators and will conflict with forskolin that i will most likely use, in the future i plan on probabaly giving either brite or supernova a try solo use....or dcp too hahaI have used about 9 bottles of Super-11. Great stuff.
I would also HIGHLY recommend Evomuse Brite, Supernova and DCP.
Epitome and cardiotryx activate AMPK. DCP, Brite, Supernova do not.Good suggestions but all that evomuse stuff are ampk activators and will conflict with forskolin that i will most likely use, in the future i plan on probabaly giving either brite or supernova a try solo use....or dcp too haha
Oh i must have missed that, thanks for pointing that outEpitome and cardiotryx activate AMPK. DCP, Brite, Supernova do not.
No problem at all. Not many people know enough about AMPK to even worry about it, and I don't claim to have AMPK knowledge on lockdown beyond being aware and minor details. DCP, as I've said time and again, is the most effective fat burner I have used in over 15 years for accute effects. Matt may disagree...He will say Brite is his best formula I bet - and I like Brite a lot but it seems more long term to me.Oh i must have missed that, thanks for pointing that out
DCP has multiple ingredients which either directly activate or with others, indirectly influence AMPK. Quercetin being a particularly powerful AMPK activator. In saying this, it is not a simple activate AMPK, eliminates the effect of another compound such as Forskolin. cAMP and AMPK are completely different signalling molecules.Epitome and cardiotryx activate AMPK. DCP, Brite, Supernova do not.
Ok, so how would you play it? Would you try DCP and Forskolin? Maybe that is why DSade didn't put Forskolin in the product? I honestly don't know.DCP has multiple ingredients which either directly activate or with others, indirectly influence AMPK. Quercetin being a particularly powerful AMPK activator. In saying this, it is not a simple activate AMPK, eliminates the effect of another compound such as Forskolin. cAMP and AMPK are completely different signalling molecules.
If the goal is fat loss, then increasing cAMP through Forskolin supplementation will be of benefit. Why he didn't include it in the product? you will need to ask him, but my bet is that its not included because its not directly relevant to the pathways which he formulated this product to target.Ok, so how would you play it? Would you try DCP and Forskolin? Maybe that is why DSade didn't put Forskolin in the product? I honestly don't know.
I do know the effects of DCP are strong enough to get me to drop Forskolin instead.
Yeah, I try to keep products designed with certain common and complementary pathways together. Just tossing in forskolin for no reason (even though it works fine) would increase cost past the point of being affordable to a lot of people and my goal is to make everything affordable.If the goal is fat loss, then increasing cAMP through Forskolin supplementation will be of benefit. Why he didn't include it in the product? you will need to ask him, but my bet is that its not included because its not directly relevant to the pathways which he formulated this product to target.
Just looked this product up. Holy ****, it looks good. Thanks for awaring me.Evomuse is the king of this.. Evomuse Super Nova is the king of this, hands freakin down.
Do you use an OTC PCT or serm? Which product?Used 1 bottle of Olympus UK Sup3r-11.... loved it. Have another bottle ready (ty bogo sales), can't wait to use it.
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