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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Adizzle1 View Post
    We agree, we are working on properly setting up international shipments ASAP!
    Maybe we could offer a special sale for international once it's up. Like an intro to international.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    But not at the introductory price. I can't even imagine the money lost from international sales. :/
    We are working on that. Although it won't be as low as the intro price, Nutriverse routinely has 20% off our line and then you have the forum code AM5 for another 5%
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by AntM1564 View Post
    We are working on that. Although it won't be as low as the intro price, Nutriverse routinely has 20% off our line and then you have the forum code AM5 for another 5%
    It's a loss for both the company and consumer. I understand NV has decent prices, but it's probably a bigger financial loss for the company tho. Direct sales always profit more for a company.

    I'll use NV, but I would of bought a bunch off you guys direct if it was available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    It's a loss for both the company and consumer. I understand NV has decent prices, but it's probably a bigger financial loss for the company tho. Direct sales always profit more for a company.

    I'll use NV, but I would of bought a bunch off you guys direct if it was available.
    Retailers aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Wholesale for supps companies is majority of their nut. But anyway, gonna have to try this out!

  5. How long is the pre-sale? Just wondering if I can buy and ship to a friend in the US!
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  6. The new and improved PowerMax XT is avaiable through our site, get 30% off with code INTRA30

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  7. Quote Originally Posted by AntM1564 View Post
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    Slight confusion about the profile breakdown,
    In the Macro profile it says "Protein 5.5g"
    But
    In the Amino Acid mTOR Activation there's 9g of protein in the form of hydrolysed whey protein, BCAA's and EAA's?

    So is there 14.5g of protein, 9g of protein or 5.5g of protein?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Slims View Post
    Slight confusion about the profile breakdown,
    In the Macro profile it says "Protein 5.5g"
    But
    In the Amino Acid mTOR Activation there's 9g of protein in the form of hydrolysed whey protein, BCAA's and EAA's?

    So is there 14.5g of protein, 9g of protein or 5.5g of protein?
    14.5 grams I believe. 5.5 g of whey and the remainder with EAAs. EAA calories aren't included on nutrient labels, protein from whey is

  9. There is 6g of hydro whey providing 5.5g of protein (~90%) and 3g added leucine for a total of 9g in the mTOR matrix as per the label.

  10. Exactly, this is based on studies that show this combination of Whey (6g) + Leucine (3g/5g) out performs 25g of straight whey. So your getting better benefits then 25g protein with the increased digestion and assimilation of Di/Tri peptides that out perform intact whole proteins.

    "Performax may be onto onto something here, as research has shown that consuming 6g Whey Protein + 3g/5g Leucine outperformed 25g straight whey in terms of myofibrillar protein synthesis.[1] Other research demonstrates that increasing the leucine content of EAAs (from 1.87g to 3.5g) and taken intra-workout increased post-workout muscle protein synthesis by 33% compared relative to the lower leucine content.[2]"

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  11. Quote Originally Posted by machinehead View Post
    There is 6g of hydro whey providing 5.5g of protein (~90%) and 3g added leucine for a total of 9g in the mTOR matrix as per the label.
    Yep. Here's an old post of mine on the subject (sorry for any repetition with Adizzle1's post):

    "Here's the study on various doses of whey in combination with leucine and BCAAs:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24284442

    Doses/combinations:
    -25g Whey Protein (3g leucine)
    -6.25g Whey Protein (0.75g leucine)
    -6.25g Whey Protein (added leucine to 3g)
    -6.25g Whey Protein (added leucine to 5g)
    -6.25g Whey Protein (added leucine to 5g; from added BCAAs instead of just added leucine)

    Interestingly, Phospho-mTOR was increased at 1.5 hours in the Whey 25g, Whey 6.25 (3g l) and Whey 6.25 (5gl), but not in the Whey 6.25g or Whey (3g l; BCAAs). The study, along with others, have shown that a suboptimal protein dose (6.25g whey) supplemented with leucine (3g total) can stimulate postprandial MPS rates equivalent to that of 25g whey (with 3g leucine total).

    The discussion of the study said this:
    Because BCAAs share a common intestinal transporter, differences in amino acid appearance profiles between W6+BCAAs and W6+High-Leu treatments likely represents antagonism between BCAAs for uptake from the gut, which is congruent with data showing that isoleucine and valine compete with and can impede leucine absorption (47). The same effect could be true for the transsarcolemmal BCAA transport because BCAAs share the same transporter at that site (48).
    There's also another study that showed increasing the leucine content of EAAs (from 1.87g to 3.5g) taken intra-workout increased post-workout muscle protein synthesis by 33% compared relative to the lower leucine content:
    Leucine-enriched essential amino acid supplementation during moderate steady state exercise enhances postexercise muscle protein synthesis
    There's also a study showing that a combination of 6g EAAs and ~40g carbs taken intra-workout was able to improve strength and fat-free mass by more than EAAs or carbs alone, with no significant difference in fat (all groups lost fat):
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16456674
    There's also some interesting research on Whey Protein Hydroslate (WPH):
    Buckley et al. examined whether hydrolyzed whey protein isolate speeds recovery more effectively than intact whey protein isolate following eccentric exercise [21]. The subjects performed 100 maximal eccentric contractions of their knee extensors and then consumed either 25 g of hydrolyzed whey protein isolate or intact whey protein isolate. Interestingly, peak isometric torque was recovered fully in 6 h in the whey protein hydrolysate group, while it remained suppressed in the intact whey protein group.
    The results revealed that whey protein hydrolysate ingestion induced significant increases in skeletal muscle glycogen levels compared with other protein sources or BCAA.
    Thus, whey protein hydrolysate appears to enhance the effects of carbohydrate ingestion on post-exercise muscle glycogen resynthesis. Whether whey protein hydrolysate stimulates muscle glucose uptake and glycogen resynthesis in athletes remains to be determined.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2761917/
    This makes the pairing of carbs with WPH (over BCAAs) particularly interesting, and, referring back to the low-dose whey + lecuine study, it seems very possible that you can get away with a lower dose of WPH with added leucine to 3-5g total.

    With that in mind, I like either 6-10g EAAs with leucine content added to total 3-5g, or ~6g WPH with leucine content added to 3-5g total, plus ~40g carbs (I typically go with Gatorade powder since it's very affordable and can be used to flavor bulk ingredients) intra-workout.

    With the above reserach in mind, I do not think that drinking only BCAAs intra-workout is ideal, as you also want EAAs, and 3-5g leucine of course. Also, it appears that sometimes you don't want a ton of BCAAs, just a lot of leucine and a "sufficient" amount of the other BCAAs and EAAs. The WPH provides these EAAs and BCAAs (along with some leucine of course), and the additional leucine brings the total leucine content into that ideal 3-5g range.
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  12. Yep, I like the formula. Not only you are getting a full dose of leucine but also all EAAs from the WPH while at the same time you can sell it internationally as the tryptophan is not free-form. I hope you fixed the typos in the label before release

  13. Super excited about this
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  14. When will this version be stocked at NV? Currently they're selling the old version.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    When will this version be stocked at NV? Currently they're selling the old version.
    It is only available through us directly right now. @Adizzle1 might be able to give you a clear answer.
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  16. Just got mine in today and I love the taste! Stacked it with HyperMax xt. Doing the same tomorrow.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by AntM1564 View Post
    It is only available through us directly right now. @Adizzle1 might be able to give you a clear answer.
    All good, the shipping is too expensive. $43 or something for 2 tubs! I got 5 tubs from Suppz for $34.


    Kills it for me, I guess I'll wait til it's at A1 or NV or somewhere. Looks solid, def would rotate it as a staple!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    All good, the shipping is too expensive. $43 or something for 2 tubs! I got 5 tubs from Suppz for $34.


    Kills it for me, I guess I'll wait til it's at A1 or NV or somewhere. Looks solid, def would rotate it as a staple!
    @AdelV, send me your address, you have been supportive of our brand and I would like to support you back, I am going to send you a free PowerMax with a Free Shirt and Free samples of OxyMax and NootropiMax.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Adizzle1 View Post
    @AdelV, send me your address, you have been supportive of our brand and I would like to support you back, I am going to send you a free PowerMax with a Free Shirt and Free samples of OxyMax and NootropiMax.
    Woah, awesome!

    I did just buy 2 Hypermax XT, 6 Massmax XT, and 1 Noot!

    I actually really like Hypermax, and I've been switching through a few at the moment and it's my favourite. I do plan to review it at some stage.

    You're the man!

  20. Generous people!!!!!!! Looking forward to how you like everything!
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  22. Def feel a really nice mood enhancement and lasting energy with this. Even with only 1 cap a day.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by AntM1564 View Post
    The new and improved PowerMax XT is avaiable through our site, get 30% off with code INTRA30

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    Consider this strongly on my radar.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Martyfnemec View Post
    Consider this strongly on my radar.
    As it should be! I take it every single workout. Endurance is awesome.
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  25. Yep, this will probably be added to my supp routine in the coming months
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