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[DevilDog2136]

Been in here a while but after switching jobs and getting injured been away for a little while! Started hitting the weights for real again about 3 months ago figured I'd start up a new log. I'm running epistane and thanks to nostrum420 trying out Invictus by Iron Legion. Just running a 5 day split currently early AM with two HIIT sessions a week in the afternoons depending on schedule. Working on recomp as I've put in a few lbs and lost some of the mass I had.

Staple supps

Orange triad
Fish oil

Support supps

CEL Cycle Assist
Tudca
Iron Legion Invictus 1ml / day split am and pm

May add in Taurine depending how bad the back pumps get this time around.

The good stuff
Ep15tane @ 30/45/45/45/45/45/45

Post cycle

BLR Rebirth
Str3ngth Unleashed
Test1fy

This will be my 3rd cycle of epi and first time running iron legion. Open to any suggestions as there's a lot of experience on here!

Currently sitting at 225 and 22% BF as of this morning. Aiming to get back down to the 200 and 15% BF where I was. Doubt I'll make that much change in the next 6 weeks as I'll be eating at maintenance and I'm realistic lol.

For those that don't know what Invictus is it is a TD cortisol inhibitor. Cortisol is a common hormone in the body that can be increased from stress and can cause weight gain and inflammation.

 

[JamesReef]

in because I f*ckin love epistane lol

 

[DevilDog2136]

Glad to have you along I love it too obviously it's my third run and still have a few bottles hiding away

 

[JamesReef]

youre a lucky soul! I havent ran it since somewhere around 2011 maybe 2012. Good luck bro!

 

[paul56778]

in for log, i have some but it is expired by 2 years, do you feel it could have converted from epi to pheraplex because the last time i used it with tr3n and halodrol i was aiming to cut but seemed to gain more mass, it turned out to be more of a bulk. e.g. gaining 18lbs in around 8 weeks.

 

[blueline438]

In cause I too am about to run invictus.

 

[DevilDog2136]

in for log, i have some but it is expired by 2 years, do you feel it could have converted from epi to pheraplex because the last time i used it with tr3n and halodrol i was aiming to cut but seemed to gain more mass, it turned out to be more of a bulk. e.g. gaining 18lbs in around 8 weeks.

Honestly I doubt it but that's still a debate from what I read. I looked up the same thing cause my bottles are between a year and two expired. From what I've read in theory it is possible but extremely rare and nothing has been proven completely yet. 18 lbs of mass would be nice imo though as long as no fat gain lol

 

[DevilDog2136]

In cause I too am about to run invictus.

I've used hand sanitizer to help with absorption with other TD's you think this will have any negative or positive effects?

 

[blueline438]

I've used hand sanitizer to help with absorption with other TD's you think this will have any negative or positive effects?

Not a clue.

 

[nostrum420]

Following!

 

[slggtstrength]

Oh how I wish I had the funds back then to stock on epistane.

In for my love of epistane!

 

[DevilDog2136]

Following!

You think hand sanitizer would help with absorption or just a waste?

 

[nostrum420]

Could help but actually if you can find one, I'd recommend a lotion with a H2O, PEG, Glycerin base. If any of the ladies in your life sell Mary Kay stuff, their after sun gel is ideal. Failing that, any moisturizer will help with absorption AND makes the skin more viable for subsequent applications.

 

[AntM1564]

Third cycle...running Epi and does not have SERM for PCT. Get a SERM.

 

[nostrum420]

Third cycle...running Epi and does not have SERM for PCT. Get a SERM.

Oh, umm, yeah, this ^

 

[DevilDog2136]

Third cycle...running Epi and does not have SERM for PCT. Get a SERM.

Already ordered just not in yet will update once I actually have it in! Good looking out though

 

[delsolrob]

subbed! I loved Epi and Invictus is one of my favorite new products

 

[DevilDog2136]

Thanks for joining and yes epi is amazing stuff almost stacked with DMZ because those are both my favorites but decided against it. Everyone in here is saying epi was there favorite I'm glad I still have some and can get it if I need more

 

[DevilDog2136]

So this is actually day 8 of the epi and day 2 of Invictus. Added some lotion after the application this time and seemed to help with the sticky feeling that was left the first time I applied it.

 

[DevilDog2136]

Can't say for sure if it's the Invictus but I'm def sleeping better throughout the night. I feel refreshed when I wake up instead of still groggy and fighting to wake up.

 

[JamesReef]

Can't say for sure if it's the Invictus but I'm def sleeping better throughout the night. I feel refreshed when I wake up instead of still groggy and fighting to wake up.

May have to pick some up, love me some refreshing mornings!

 

[blueline438]

Can't say for sure if it's the Invictus but I'm def sleeping better throughout the night. I feel refreshed when I wake up instead of still groggy and fighting to wake up.

When are you dosing?

 

[DevilDog2136]

First application at around 4am before the gym and second application around 6 pm after my nightly shower

 

[DevilDog2136]

Sorry been a few days caught a bug or something and passed around between all the kids. Either way kinda surprised by my weight. Def gonna have to check my BF cause I've put on 5 lbs since the start of the cycle. Last time on epi I stayed the same weight but lost fat overall so idk what's going on diet is the same as before so I don't think that has anything to do with it.

 

[DevilDog2136]

Ok so BF this morning was 22.1 which means of the 5 lbs ive gained approx 4 lbs is muscle and 1 lb of fat. Think I'm gonna take the carbs down a little more but the lethargy is strong. Any suggestions to help with that? Normally would drink a monster but trying to avoid energy drinks. Back pumps are getting bad too so prolly gonna start taurine tomorrow for that

 

[nostrum420]

Do you have any DHEA, 4-DHEA or Stano type products in your stash?

 

[rascal14]

Ok so BF this morning was 22.1 which means of the 5 lbs ive gained approx 4 lbs is muscle and 1 lb of fat. Think I'm gonna take the carbs down a little more but the lethargy is strong. Any suggestions to help with that? Normally would drink a monster but trying to avoid energy drinks. Back pumps are getting bad too so prolly gonna start taurine tomorrow for that

Any reason you're avoiding energy drinks? If it's blood pressure, I would say you are probably fine, unless you have previous issues than I would probably check with your doctor about that. Just keep on eye on it and there shouldn't be any issues.

 

[nostrum420]

I likes me a Monster Ultra Sunrise.

 

[DevilDog2136]

Just trying to avoid any sugars artificial or natural. I love monsters lol. No dhea products stashed at this time but have been readin those could help

 

[rascal14]

Just trying to avoid any sugars artificial or natural. I love monsters lol. No dhea products stashed at this time but have been readin those could help

Oh okay. Well, coffee, caffeine tabs, Bronkaid are all things that could help lol

 

[Bodybeast]

I just picked up some DHEA from Amazon to help with lethargy for my cycle. Won't be starting for a week or so though

 

[Daycrawler]

Ok so BF this morning was 22.1 which means of the 5 lbs ive gained approx 4 lbs is muscle and 1 lb of fat. Think I'm gonna take the carbs down a little more but the lethargy is strong. Any suggestions to help with that? Normally would drink a monster but trying to avoid energy drinks. Back pumps are getting bad too so prolly gonna start taurine tomorrow for that

Taurine will help with the back pumps for sure.

How bad is the lethargy? If you use stims make sure to monitor your BP as pHs and stims don't always mix well.

Surprised you're running real Epi, caught me off guard considering the ban on it awhile back now

 

[DevilDog2136]

Yeah I stocked up on epi and Dmz both because I love running them.

As for the stims I'm aware from the last time I ran epi it didn't like my high stimmed pwo