lilbigman15
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actually gives any benefit?
Pretty general question, but I'm assuming that your question is regarding benefits for strength and muscle gain, which is what most members are after. There are a lot of natural products and ingredients that are studied and proven to provide benefits in strength, performance, and recovery.actually gives any benefit?
Without addressing the other three aspects; rest, nutrition and training, a supplement will not complete or help enhance the puzzle when the puzzle is missing one of the pieces.something that completes or enhances something else when added to it.
This is a good start. To enhance and aid something else is not really saying how much of the effect you want.Creatine
Betaine
Beta alanine
Carnitine
Phosphatidic Acid
Arachidonic Acid
Forskolin
Creatinol-O-Phosphate
Yohimbe
Agmatine
Berberine
Na-R-Ala
Cistanche Deserticola
Anacyclus Pyrethrum
Lodhra Bark
Ephedrine
Rhodiala Rosea
Ashwaganda
Some more debatable ones:
Laxogenin
Epicatechin
Ecdysterone
Turkesterone
Nice list. I'd personally move some around:Your post
Interested to see why you placed Creatinol-O-Phosphate in the debatable section?Nice list. I'd personally move some around:
Creatine
Betaine
Beta alanine
Carnitine
Phosphatidic Acid
Arachidonic Acid
Forskolin
Yohimbe
Agmatine
Berberine
Na-R-Ala
Ephedrine
Rhodiala Rosea
Ashwaganda
Some more debatable ones:
Lodhra Bark
Anacyclus Pyrethrum
Cistanche Deserticola
Creatinol-O-Phosphate
Laxogenin
Epicatechin
Ecdysterone
Turkesterone
Nothing written in English on oral performance benefits - just some Italian titles and a 5 year old PA blog post on a product that is always 'Out of Stock'.Interested to see why you placed Creatinol-O-Phosphate in the debatable section?
Wow that's good to know i might stop using it nowNothing written in English on oral performance benefits - just some Italian titles and a 5 year old PA blog post on a product that is always 'Out of Stock'.
As long as you don't have overly high expectations. Supplements will give you a small increase in performance and body comp. Mostly all about diet, training and rest.actually gives any benefit?
If you notice something from it, continue using it. I based my list mainly off anecdotes and reviewsWow that's good to know i might stop using it now
laxogenin, in 8 weeks what results have you had?Laxogenin at 100mg every day for 8 weeks yields good results for me, I respond to laxo much better than epicatechin but epicat works great for some people. I plan on trying again with follidrone 2.0 in the future, currently using androcrine by bps and I'm enjoying it
and follidrone2.0The two best studied are xgels (Ara) and creatine mono.
Others that have worked for many of us around here:
Cop
Epi plex
Sparta Hercules or Epicurus
i never noticed anything really from epi()If I could only get one supp, it would Folidrone 2. I have tried everything listed many times and in many combinations. Don't waste your time. I am not rep btw..
Follidrone 2.0 is not just epi. If you removed the epi from the mix it would still be stronger than Follidrone 1.i never noticed anything really from epi()
im reluctant to pay how much for folli 2? maybe if its on some kind of great sale i will reconsider
It has become my favorite product!Follidrone 2.0 is not just epi. If you removed the epi from the mix it would still be stronger than Follidrone 1.
Aside from the epicatechin there are 3 other actives each of which was tested by itself and works well by itself. Combined it makes a wicked combo.
Fat loss (for most even in caloric surplus).
Muscle growth.
Pump
Endurance
strength
plus a host of health benefits.
All of this without the epi. But of course there is epi and a strong absorption package. This absorption package may help you respond better to the epicatechin as some people seem to absorb it better than others or at least that is the prevailing theory as to why some respond so well and some not so much.
Follidrone 2.0 is a whole new beast. Its not even a close comparison to any epicatechin product because...its not just an epicatechin product.
Thanks man. I appreciate this.Folidrone 2.0 is doing so well, let's see who is first to copy it. The supp industry seems all about who can copy the next BLR product first these days. Thank you brundel for your contribution to the athletic performance minded community and for all the people you feed (employ) at your's and the other supp companies who copy your products.