Best stimulant-free thermogenic/fat burner

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    Best stimulant-free thermogenic/fat burner


    Been out of the supplement swing for awhile and was wondering
    what was the best stimulant-free thermogenic/fat burner?

    Also, the topical fat burners, any good? Heard both good and bad
    things about them.

    Of course, diet is in check.

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    I'm liking scivation/prima force's Thermal Rage. It has some caffiene in it, though, so I don't know if that qualifies for what you want. I started taking it last week and find it to be pretty good stuff. I hope more people try it, because it would really suck if they stopped making it due to lack of sales or something. Plus, it's cheap as heck.
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    My mom has had good results with Avant's Lipoderm-Y with a small amount of liquid clen. Might try that. Loki has the dosing patterns posted elsewhere on here.
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    I'm wondering about this as well. I've always responded well to the E/C/A stack, yet clen did nothing in terms of losing fat. It just kept me from gaining any post cycle. When I tried it last summer for fat loss, I got nothing from clen except jitters.

    However, I have to see a cardiologist soon for a genetic heart palpatation that comes and goes. Nothing serious, but I'd rather be careful.

    I was looking at H.E.A.T. and Lipo 6 without the e in it. Yohimbe hasn't been a problem in the past.

    There's a lot to read here, admittedly, but I'd still like some more recommendations.
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