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Can someone shed some light on the td line from IL? As I understood Invictus is a td cortisol control that aids in fat loss. Vedius is a laxo product. What about VII-KT and Virtus? The reason me asking is because I purchase from US and ship to to EU,so shipping is calculated depending on the weight and purchasing anything from IL is a breeze. What would you recommend for a solid lean bulk?
 
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Sorry,wrong formulation - which product may aid in steady lean muscle gain and/or provide legit,supreme muscle hardening.
 
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X11-KT Could help lean muscle and fat loss, it is 11-Keto, may need a little PCT after it.

Virtus IIRC is an AI and I dont think V11-KT is out yet

I am using Invictus atm and very happy with fat loss
 
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Can someone shed some light on the td line from IL? As I understood Invictus is a td cortisol control that aids in fat loss. Vedius is a laxo product. What about VII-KT and Virtus? The reason me asking is because I purchase from US and ship to to EU,so shipping is calculated depending on the weight and purchasing anything from IL is a breeze. What would you recommend for a solid lean bulk?
VII-KT is 7-keto DHEA - ideal for cutting and stacks well with b-AET (Invictus)

Virtus is an AI

If you're in Europe, you can still get XI-KT at Predator, that would be awesome for a lean bulk.

Virtus and VII-KT were just released this week.
 
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Can someone shed some light on the td line from IL? As I understood Invictus is a td cortisol control that aids in fat loss. Vedius is a laxo product. What about VII-KT and Virtus? The reason me asking is because I purchase from US and ship to to EU,so shipping is calculated depending on the weight and purchasing anything from IL is a breeze. What would you recommend for a solid lean bulk?
VII-KT --> 7-Keto
Virtus --> AI
Invictus --> b-AET
Vedius --> Laxogenin
 
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where was V11 Released?? is it non hormonal??
 
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where was V11 Released?? is it non hormonal??
It should be released pretty soon as there are pre-sales on it at certain sites (TGB). It is non-hormonal (7-Keto) and requires no PCT.
 
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X11-KT Could help lean muscle and fat loss, it is 11-Keto, may need a little PCT after it.

Virtus IIRC is an AI and I dont think V11-KT is out yet

I am using Invictus atm and very happy with fat loss
How long have you run Invictus, today is day 2 for me, when did you notice increased fat loss.
 
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So non of them is suppressing enough to require a pct or something to run alongside? Good news. It seems v11 is the way to go. Any of them provide hardening effect?
 
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v11 and invictus together may be too much cortisol supression btw
 
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How long have you run Invictus, today is day 2 for me, when did you notice increased fat loss.
Been running a week nd a bit i thnk, I am running alongside FD2 tho, so fat loss could be for a number of reasons
 
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Been running a week nd a bit i thnk, I am running alongside FD2 tho, so fat loss could be for a number of reasons
I am also running FD2.0 Viron, Super PCT, Exotherm, Prolactrone, Clomid, Tr1iumph, and DSU, so it would be interesting to see how this works in synergy with all of the other supplements.
 
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Been running a week nd a bit i thnk, I am running alongside FD2 tho, so fat loss could be for a number of reasons
how's this working out for you?
 
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How are you running your diet with it, are you at major deficit in calories.
I am eating normally, nothing special at all, not holding back on anything, I eat pretty clean all the time anyway... I'd say I am prob maintenance, I do not calorie count
 
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I am eating normally, nothing special at all, not holding back on anything, I eat pretty clean all the time anyway... I'd say I am prob maintenance, I do not calorie count
Makes life easier not tracking and weighing out portions. are you finding more improved sleep quality from invictus, I have found my overall sleep quality has improved and I feel much more recovered on 7-8 hours per night, 8 seems to be the max I am getting most nights, but I feel I could easily get by on 6-7.
 
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Makes life easier not tracking and weighing out portions. are you finding more improved sleep quality from invictus, I have found my overall sleep quality has improved and I feel much more recovered on 7-8 hours per night, 8 seems to be the max I am getting most nights, but I feel I could easily get by on 6-7.
Several users have reported improved sleep and a more relaxed state of mind associated with using Invictus.
 
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Several users have reported improved sleep and a more relaxed state of mind associated with using Invictus.
I do feel more calm and relaxed through day, and have no cravings even when i lower calories which is great.

I have been dosing am after shower and fasted cardio and then after pre bed shower, is this optimal?
 
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I do feel more calm and relaxed through day, and have no cravings even when i lower calories which is great.

I have been dosing am after shower and fasted cardio and then after pre bed shower, is this optimal?
Sounds great. Your cortisol peaks once in the morning and once in the evening so your dosing is right on.
 
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I personally do not have improved sleep and prob not more relaxed tbh
 
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Sounds great. Your cortisol peaks once in the morning and once in the evening so your dosing is right on.
Cool, thanks for reply, this will be my last week, I am on day 24, then once invictus runs out I will switch over to using reduce XT for 1 month, and maybe go back to another bottle of Invictus, I am currently using 3 transdermal products, this, Exotherm and Dermastr3ngth Unleashed, so I will have one less to apply which will allow for me to use different application sites for the Exo and DSU.
 
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Cool, thanks for reply, this will be my last week, I am on day 24, then once invictus runs out I will switch over to using reduce XT for 1 month, and maybe go back to another bottle of Invictus, I am currently using 3 transdermal products, this, Exotherm and Dermastr3ngth Unleashed, so I will have one less to apply which will allow for me to use different application sites for the Exo and DSU.
Awesome, I'd be interested in your thoughts on how the Invictus compares to Reduce XT
 
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