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Any products out there to prevent hunger? Stims are out of the question... I'm a recovering addict so they kind of trigger me.
Drinking tons of water can help, also i find that trying a keto diet definitely helps appetite as you're getting tons of filling proteinAny products out there to prevent hunger? Stims are out of the question... I'm a recovering addict so they kind of trigger me.
Brite is a god send but it sells out in seconds.+1 for epitome.
I've had mixed reaction at low bf. Kills hunger sometimes. Makes me hungry others. Want to stack with Brite, but need it to get restocked.
I meant Basic, for hunger. ( I just got 6 bottles of Brite on this last restock - super psyched!)Brite is a god send but it sells out in seconds.
Wanna sell me one? Ill pay more than retail!I meant Basic, for hunger. ( I just got 6 bottles of Brite on this last restock - super psyched!)
Ha! Let the bidding begin!Wanna sell me one? Ill pay more than retail!
He said no stims...Non supplement I'd say drinking infused water helps me. I find if I do water with lemon and cucumber, I drink a lot more than I would just plain water.
Supplement wise.. OxyMax XT and Epitome stack has worked really well. The stim and mood enhancement of OxyMax mixed with the leptin altering of Epitome is a one two punch on hunger.
That's what I get for reading while half asleep. My badHe said no stims...
Pes shift has worked the best of any fat burner type supp for app suppression for me. Other than that just picking foods for volume. I eat very high protein and low carb and fat. Lots of veggies and lean meat.
For a different type of supp but not something to take daily kratom destroys my appetite. Almost to the point of being sick. It is however an opiate like powder so this may not be the best idea for you. I use it on my off day as it relaxes me and also allows me to eat far less.
Take your oxy MaxThat's what I get for reading while half asleep. My bad
Lol just did. I also edited my post, so I don't misinform OP.Take your oxy Max
Agreed. Sugar-free gum and a 5-10g serving of glutamine seems to help me as well. Sometimes you just have to eat something lol. Pysllium husk or potato starch with a glass or two of water has also given me a decent amount of satiation in the past.I go the "actually consume something" route for unscheduled hunger - 1 litre of Wal-Mart 'Clear' Soda (0 anything) and a few big forkfuls of Saurkraut (5 kcals per few big fork-fulls). The SK is also great for digestion/gut/micro-biome stuff, being fermented.
I'm a big berberine fan too..blood sugar regulatorI like 500mg of berberine a day. Cheap, effective, health-promoting but extends clearance of other drugs so caffeine and ephedrine last way longer.
I like 500mg of berberine a day. Cheap, effective, health-promoting but extends clearance of other drugs so caffeine and ephedrine last way longer.
Berberine is great. It's a component of SlinMax, which is a fantastic GDA. The complex, however, makes me more hungry due to the super-effective nutrient partitioning. For your purposes, I'd recommend the plain berberine.I'm a big berberine fan too..blood sugar regulator
Same thing happens to me...any time I use a quality GDA I get ridiculously hungryBerberine is great. It's a component of SlinMax, which is a fantastic GDA. The complex, however, makes me more hungry due to the super-effective nutrient partitioning. For your purposes, I'd recommend the plain berberine.
great post and dead on as far as my thoughts on the kratom... could be dangerous for an addictive personality, but could also be a good go-between if still truly struggling. thanks for your experienced input there.Being an ex-addict, if you are the addicted-to-highs type instead of addicted to a certain class of drugs, stay far away from kratom. It took me a long time and a lot of willpower to use it responsibly once I quit abusing things. I had little choice because the doctors will no longer prescribe me anything even though I have a well-documented condition. I use it for pain from a car accident, not appetite, but the trigger would be all the same. It affects a blend of opi receptors, a la morphine.
I second PES shift, but that has bitter orange extract, which is synephrine, which is a mild stim. I notice the focus and clarity from it plain as day, so be careful with that. It might be a good way to ease yourself into responsible stim use when you're ready, but speaking from one ex-user to another, you may want to think hard about it.
Being an ex-addict, if you are the addicted-to-highs type instead of addicted to a certain class of drugs, stay far away from kratom. It took me a long time and a lot of willpower to use it responsibly once I quit abusing things. I had little choice because the doctors will no longer prescribe me anything even though I have a well-documented condition. I use it for pain from a car accident, not appetite, but the trigger would be all the same. It affects a blend of opi receptors, a la morphine.
I second PES shift, but that has bitter orange extract, which is synephrine, which is a mild stim. I notice the focus and clarity from it plain as day, so be careful with that. It might be a good way to ease yourself into responsible stim use when you're ready, but speaking from one ex-user to another, you may want to think hard about it.
This is why I had said, in so many words, that it depends how your triggers work. Sometimes all you're addicted to is the peripheral feelings. Other times, it is the actual stimulation, sometimes it is anything which affects your body chemistry a certain way. It's better to at least think first than be sorry with addiction. I just wanted to be sure OP had thorough information to make this decision him/herself.Synephrine acts peripherally so it shouldn't be an issue. Stimulation would only be an issue if combined with something like caffeine. Shift helps me avoid hunger for several hours (I take it right when I wake up and usually don't eat until lunch time or later).
If you do go the synephrine route, I got a great price on syn30 at nutraplanet. I use it just as a small kick in the ass for work when not dieting.Non stim products to prevent hunger? Check out the SNS line. We have multiple non stim options that will prevent hunger:
-garcinia Cambogia
-green tea caps
-raspberry ketones - RK-125 or RK-500
-Thyrocaps
-SYN-30 (synephrine)
The great thing is that they can all be stacked together!
I wasn't disagreeing with what you said.This is why I had said, in so many words, that it depends how your triggers work. Sometimes all you're addicted to is the peripheral feelings. Other times, it is the actual stimulation, sometimes it is anything which affects your body chemistry a certain way. It's better to at least think first than be sorry with addiction. I just wanted to be sure OP had thorough information to make this decision him/herself.
My apologies, now that I reread it I see that. I don't get to read stuff twice while I'm at work on the can reading posts haha.I wasn't disagreeing with what you said.