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Tried a few.... BSL growth, prime sleep, ANS Diablo pm.... Anything new on the market that looks promising?
Trust me I know it doesn't actually increase gh levels but they do relax me and increase my sleep qualityAs far as "GH", only MK-677 will work (talking semi-easy obtainable orals) IMO. All the Safed Musli/L-Dopa combo products (et. al.) are going off of one extremely weak "study" where 2-4 of 15-17 (I forget the exact details) participants actually had an increase. Other data suggests that the body is stingy with GH as well - If you increase it with 3g of GABA pre-heavy-training (<- Yes, will work), the 24 hour AUC is less - the body compensates later in the day with smaller releases.
With 11,000+ posts, I know you do That was more of a "to the masses" release because I lack self controlTrust me I know it doesn't actually increase gh levels but they do relax me and increase my sleep quality
Are you a fan of Phenibut? I use Formutech Nutrition REM 8.0 a few times a week. Good stuff, but if you're not a Phenibut fan it's probably not for you.Tried a few.... BSL growth, prime sleep, ANS Diablo pm.... Anything new on the market that looks promising?
I forgot about that one, I used pheni religiously at one point.. Hmmm REM sounds like a good logAre you a fan of Phenibut? I use Formutech Nutrition REM 8.0 a few times a week. Good stuff, but if you're not a Phenibut fan it's probably not for you.
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Dude Phenibut is awesome. I've been lucky to not have the addiction symptoms, but I sure do love the feeling I get from it. SNS used to sell straight up Phenibut for awhile (not sure if they still do). Could always try grabbing that + a melatonin.I forgot about that one, I used pheni religiously at one point.. Hmmm REM sounds like a good log
We still do!Dude Phenibut is awesome. I've been lucky to not have the addiction symptoms, but I sure do love the feeling I get from it. SNS used to sell straight up Phenibut for awhile (not sure if they still do). Could always try grabbing that + a melatonin.
Still do! http://www.seriousnutritionsolutions.com/products/baseline/Phenibut-XT.phpDude Phenibut is awesome. I've been lucky to not have the addiction symptoms, but I sure do love the feeling I get from it. SNS used to sell straight up Phenibut for awhile (not sure if they still do). Could always try grabbing that + a melatonin.
We still do!
you guys have google alerts going or what? hahaStill do! http://www.seriousnutritionsolutions.com/products/baseline/Phenibut-XT.php
Growth factor xt also has gotten some great feedback for sleep (sometimes even too much ha)
Any other info on this?Revivarant G from APS is wicked strong if you want to sleep for days
state secretsyou guys have google alerts going or what? haha
30-45 is pretty typical and gives enough time to get working but not so much that it'll slow you down too soonHow long before bed are you guys taking Growth Factor xt
What would you like to know about it?Any other info on this?
I've read it's very very strong. Dosage tips, days on/off, just basically stuff that you may have picked up along the way.What would you like to know about it?
Yeah man it is very strong. Honestly I think I'd go with REM 8.0 and see how a single scoop treats you. I can talk about it all day because I love itI've read it's very very strong. Dosage tips, days on/off, just basically stuff that you may have picked up along the way.
I agree. I use use it around once or twice a week. I only end up needing half a scoop or sometimes even less depending how long my day was. I recent did a youtube video last week. I use a sleep tracker app on my phone. 5/3/1 Bench day I bombed on my 1 rep set. I had a 70ish % sleep quality without REM that night. Next night I used a scoop of REM and woke up with a 98% sleep quality and I hit a 10lb Squat PR.Yeah man it is very strong. Honestly I think I'd go with REM 8.0 and see how a single scoop treats you. I can talk about it all day because I love it
I typically use it only like 3 times a week to avoid tolerance and Phenibut sides. I dose 30-45 min pre-bed.
Omg too much sleep is horrible. Sometimes these things work too well for us folk lolGrowth factor XT
Ive seen people complaint that they sleep too much on it ( I didn't knew there was such a thing )
Still do , love the stuff myself .. I use it when im not using Growth factorXTDude Phenibut is awesome. I've been lucky to not have the addiction symptoms, but I sure do love the feeling I get from it. SNS used to sell straight up Phenibut for awhile (not sure if they still do). Could always try grabbing that + a melatonin.
Only thing i would wanna wake up for is FOOD lolOmg too much sleep is horrible. Sometimes these things work too well for us folk lol
It's a bad thing when you work out in the morning......it's a tough battle. Man, I had such great sleep....but I missed a workout. Leaves me with mixed feelings.Growth factor XT
Ive seen people complaint that they sleep too much on it ( I didn't knew there was such a thing )
Off topic but how does an iPhone app track your sleep. I'm assuming you have a Fitbit or the like?I agree. I use use it around once or twice a week. I only end up needing half a scoop or sometimes even less depending how long my day was. I recent did a youtube video last week. I use a sleep tracker app on my phone. 5/3/1 Bench day I bombed on my 1 rep set. I had a 70ish % sleep quality without REM that night. Next night I used a scoop of REM and woke up with a 98% sleep quality and I hit a 10lb Squat PR.
What dosage of Relora?Growth Factor XT may be worth looking into if you haven't used it before.
I also like to use ZMA and Relora pre bed
Look up "Zeo Headband" - I hear that thing is nice. They went belly up (IP has been re-purchased) but can still be found on eBay, and Steve Gibson (computer security guy who is into sleep tracking) has some stuff for it.Off topic but how does an iPhone app track your sleep. I'm assuming you have a Fitbit or the like?
500mg pre-bed works.Off topic but how does an iPhone app track your sleep. I'm assuming you have a Fitbit or the like?
What dosage of Relora?
Abyss Unparalleled gave me the hint to use it....such a good ingredient.This!
I love it personally.