Which is best Epicat or Laxo? Or either?

[wrxjpm]

Hey guys I'm looking to build some muscle more naturally . I've done a cycle of Lgd, Ostarine . Never a prohormone yet . But trying to find something to add to put some size one without getting all hormonal . What's everyone's thoughts or recomendations? Thx in advance

 

[hvactech]

neither in my opinion....

 

[wrxjpm]

what would be good in your opinion bro?

 

[jgntyce]

Epicatechin

 

[ericool007]

epicatechin
ARA, PA, creatine are all way better options than laxo

 

[AntM1564]

Some people love (-)Epi products and other hate it. It seems like it is hit or miss for most. Good suggestions are ArA, if size and strength are your main goals. If you're looking for a product that will help boost free and total testosterone, naturally, then look into AlphaMax. It contains a full 1400 mg dose of 3,4 divanil. Also, AlphaMax is great for increasing cAMP levels with a full dose of forskolin which can aid in adding lean mass and increase fat loss. AlphaMax is also solid for strength gains, but I much prefer it for a lean bulk/recomp.

I would keep this in mind though. Whatever you decide to run, it/they will not compare to a SARM. These products that I, and others, have mentioned are good, but sometimes when one goes from a SARM/PH to a naturally product, the person thinks results will be the same.

 

[wrxjpm]

epicatechin
ARA, PA, creatine are all way better options than laxo

dumb question ara? pa?

 

[T-Bone]

Hey guys I'm looking to build some muscle more naturally . I've done a cycle of Lgd, Ostarine . Never a prohormone yet . But trying to find something to add to put some size one without getting all hormonal . What's everyone's thoughts or recomendations? Thx in advance

You already "got hormonal" with LGD & Osta. Only difference between those and AAS is SARMS are selective.

 

[T-Bone]

I say neither also.

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

dumb question ara? pa?

Arachrondic acid (xgels/xfactor), phosphadic acid (soy lecithin granules/other supplements)

 

[wrxjpm]

I say neither also.

yea I done the sarm cycles last year. Was just seeing if anyone thought there was something more natural that worked good.

 

[T-Bone]

yea I done the sarm cycles last year. Was just seeing if anyone thought there was something more natural that worked good.

There is nothing natural that's gonna work as good. Sure natural stuff "works" but there really is no comparison. You might as well just run another SARM cycle or if you want something extremely mild run an andro cycle.

 

[wrxjpm]

There is nothing natural that's gonna work as good. Sure natural stuff "works" but there really is no comparison. You might as well just run another SARM cycle or if you want something extremely mild run an andro cycle.

What do you like tbone? which is the least supressive on natural test? I'm low in that area lol

 

[T-Bone]

What do you like tbone? which is the least supressive on natural test? I'm low in that area lol

What do I like on what though?. The only thing I really really love is Trest or DermaTrest, however that is extremely suppressive.

 

[LeanEngineer]

Hey guys I'm looking to build some muscle more naturally . I've done a cycle of Lgd, Ostarine . Never a prohormone yet . But trying to find something to add to put some size one without getting all hormonal . What's everyone's thoughts or recomendations? Thx in advance

Check out Anafuse. It has epicatechin and laxogenin in it. They stack great together. Also check out X gels and Anabeta elite.

 

[jgntyce]

If interested in ANABETA elite, I have 5 bottles of the updated version for sale or trade!

 

[smith_69]

Hey guys I'm looking to build some muscle more naturally . I've done a cycle of Lgd, Ostarine . Never a prohormone yet . But trying to find something to add to put some size one without getting all hormonal . What's everyone's thoughts or recomendations? Thx in advance

more naturally would not include epi or laxo- have you done any ph in the past

 

[smith_69]

If interested in ANABETA elite, I have 5 bottles of the updated version for sale or trade!

always doing business SMH

lol jk jgn

 

[wrxjpm]

always doing business SMH

lol jk jgn

I've done lgd by **** , and ostarine by ats labs

 

[smith_69]

I've done lgd by **** , and ostarine by ats labs

ok

guess your looking natty ok, cool cool

 

[wrxjpm]

I'm always down for trading lol , I've got tons of stuff

 

[smith_69]

I'm always down for trading lol , I've got tons of stuff

jgntyce

i get 5% of the trade- lol

thats between you guys- happy trading

 

[wrxjpm]

ok

guess your looking natty ok, cool cool

sad thing is , ive actually got some aas that ive never even tried lol . What would you reccomend smith69?

 

[smith_69]

sad thing is , ive actually got some aas that ive never even tried lol . What would you reccomend smith69?

none- take vitamins

 

[wrxjpm]

Alrighty then good advice lmao

 

[jgntyce]

I'm always down for trading lol , I've got tons of stuff

I now have two bottles left of ABE. Please PM me what you have to trade for.

 

[jaredmus]

Arachrondic acid (xgels/xfactor), phosphadic acid (soy lecithin granules/other supplements)

I really like both of these products

 

[rmanyou]

I had good results with Olympus Labs Str3ngth..

 

[jaredmus]

I had good results with Olympus Labs Str3ngth..

what did you notice?

 

[rmanyou]

what did you notice?

I lost weight even though I didn't exactly keep my diet on point. My strength increased and I became more defined in my chest, arms, and shoulders. I ran 2 bottles at 100 mg a day. I ran my first osta cycle right after and honestly I liked the LAXO better.

 

[wrxjpm]

Was it the unleashed version

 

[rmanyou]

Was it the unleashed version

I ran the original...But I want to try unleashed.

 

[wrxjpm]

I ran ostarine and wasn't impressed

 

[rmanyou]

I ran ostarine and wasn't impressed

Yea I was pretty disappointed too.
I went to 20 mg a day and nothing.

 

[T-Bone]

I ran ostarine and wasn't impressed

It's best run with no more than 20mg per day and at the least 12 weeks.

 

[rmanyou]

It's best run with no more than 20mg per day and at the least 12 weeks.

When do you typically start seeing results.

 

[wrxjpm]

Could it be my brand ? Anyone heard of ats labs?

 

[T-Bone]

Could it be my brand ? Anyone heard of ats labs?

Yeah I never heard of them. I ran OL brand. Also IronMagLabs was good stuff.

 

[ericool007]

Could it be my brand ? Anyone heard of ats labs?

yea never heard of it lol and i wouldnt take any chances when it comes to brands. olympus labs osta is legit so is their GW and MK

 

[rmanyou]

Hey guys I'm looking to build some muscle more naturally . I've done a cycle of Lgd, Ostarine . Never a prohormone yet . But trying to find something to add to put some size one without getting all hormonal . What's everyone's thoughts or recomendations? Thx in advance

I know we got off subject.. So have you came to a conclusion on which your going to try next....epicat, laxogenin..or...

 

[wrxjpm]

Honestly don't know lots of different opinions on here lol. What about you rmanyou? Gonna try anything

 

[NewAgeMayan]

I ran ostarine and wasn't impressed

Yea I was pretty disappointed too.
I went to 20 mg a day and nothing.

Were you guys eating at kcal surplus or deficit

 

[wrxjpm]

Wtf

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Wtf

Lol were you eating lots (bulking) or eating fuk all (cutting)?

 

[rmanyou]

Were you guys eating at kcal surplus or deficit

I was at a deficit. I took advice of only running it 5 weeks. I may have needed to run longer at a higher dose.

 

[rmanyou]

Honestly don't know lots of different opinions on here lol. What about you rmanyou? Gonna try anything

I'm not sure at this point....I have a few options in my supplement cabnet....just haven't decided how I'm going to put it together or what I want to run. What ever I do will be with the goal of losing some fat.

 

[lifted67]

Bumping, I ran Anafuse at 8 weeks and really didn't get much out of it. I plan on doing another Epi/Laxo run but not using a prop blend and really taking advantage of proper dosing. Also throwing in xgels to the mix

 

[dvw]

BPS Dermacrine for 8 weeks. Although it can be considered a mild pro hormone. it doesn't need a PCT.

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

I suggest Epi2.0, follidrone 2.0, tr1umph, alphamax xt and ARA for solid 8 week natty stack cost about $200-300 for an 8 week run but to me gains like that without crushing my T and feeling like a b1tch for 2-3 months after is well worth it

 

[brundel]

For sure give Follidrone 2.0 a run.
Epicatechin plus 3 absorption enhancement ingredients. Super solid absorption package.

Plus ecklonia cava which is one of if not the strongest natty anabolic available today.

Plus Flos cathami - a natty myostatin inhibitor

Plus Quercetin/niacin co crystals.. which increases vo2max, vasodilation etc


This stuff is wicked. Epicatechin is great but this is a whole new level. Its epi+ absorption + 3 other actives that by themselves are super solid.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/black-lion-research/279849-follidrone-2-0-a.html