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CEL TUDCA is an excellent liver support product. You could add some CEL Cycle Assist for even more protection.
 

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Cheers. I have the cycle support . I also have some aegis liver support coming this has tudca on it. Is that good to run also.
 
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CEL Tudca, OL Tudca, AI Cycle Support, CEL Life support, OL Arimistane Pro. All of these are good options
 

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UDCA
TUDCA
NAC
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Terminalia Arjuna
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Licorice Root
Milk Thistle

Just some..
 
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TUDCA seems to have more uses the more we study it, a fantastic ingredient to supplement. Probably the only TUDCA i'd trust at the moment is CEL.
 
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second what everyone listed as i take them all, lol
another one worth mentioning is planetary herbals bupleurum liver cleanse. definitely good stuff
dandelion and artichoke cant be underestimated either. dandelion root powder makes a good tea also...

anthaeus labs aegis is a great product as well. has less tudca per cap but includes ppc. i think the product is very underestimated
 
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So...anyone recommend CEL TUDCA? lol
 
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TUDCA, NAC, Milk Thistle

Tudca is the best, followed by NAC. If you want, check out OL Ar1micare PRO. It includes TUDCA and other supports for a good price.
 
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I'm a big fan of SAMe for the liver too. FWIW, I use LGI Damage control. It has almost everything that's been mentioned in this thread (TUDCA, NAC, etc), plus SAMe, and all at very decent dosages.
 
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I'd give a look at 5% nutrition liver organ defender, covers all bases liver, heart, kidneys, prostate, even skin (acne prevention) pretty generously dosed as well considering the price and extensive list of ingredients for 1 product..my go to for on cycle
 
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I'm a big fan of SAMe for the liver too. FWIW, I use LGI Damage control. It has almost everything that's been mentioned in this thread (TUDCA, NAC, etc), plus SAMe, and all at very decent dosages.
I'm using LGI damage control now in PCT. Looking forward to seeing what it can do
 
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I don't know if anyone here is aware of this, but the popular supplement called Liv.52 is very different where it originally comes from. It's enteric coated when ordering from India, and it's actually prescribed there for jaundice/etc. An Indian friend told me he was once prescribed it there.

Anyhow, it's much more effective than the Liv.52 gel caps that are found in North America. Definitely worth a look when shopping all day for chemists in India.
 
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I don't know if anyone here is aware of this, but the popular supplement called Liv.52 is very different where it originally comes from. It's enteric coated when ordering from India, and it's actually prescribed there for jaundice/etc. An Indian friend told me he was once prescribed it there.

Anyhow, it's much more effective than the Liv.52 gel caps that are found in North America. Definitely worth a look when shopping all day for chemists in India.
liv52 european version is better than american, but TUDCA still beats it out. Except the price
 
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liv52 european version is better than american, but TUDCA still beats it out. Except the price
I like to take both, extra protection. Liv.52 is so cheap when ordering from India, I've got a ridiculous amount of bottles.
 

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I like to take both, extra protection. Liv.52 is so cheap when ordering from India, I've got a ridiculous amount of bottles.
Although I like it for general liver health.. I wouldn't rely solely on this for hepatotoxic steroidal compounds.. just my opinion.
 

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I like to take both, extra protection. Liv.52 is so cheap when ordering from India, I've got a ridiculous amount of bottles.
Although I like it for general liver health.. I wouldn't rely solely on this for hepatotoxic steroidal compounds.. just my opinion.
 
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I don't know if anyone here is aware of this, but the popular supplement called Liv.52 is very different where it originally comes from. It's enteric coated when ordering from India, and it's actually prescribed there for jaundice/etc. An Indian friend told me he was once prescribed it there.

Anyhow, it's much more effective than the Liv.52 gel caps that are found in North America. Definitely worth a look when shopping all day for chemists in India.
Or you could use something 100x more efficacious like TUDCA/NAC/SAMe
 
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Or you could use something 100x more efficacious like TUDCA/NAC/SAMe
I already mentioned ALL of these above and that I take them all including liv.52 ;)

And TUDCA/NAC/SAMe is not 100% more efficacious, I'd like to see studies on that lol.... they are great, I take them all. The European version of liv.52 will reverse jaundice and choleostasis... NAC won't, SAMe won't, TUDCA will. But they are all useful.
 
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Although I like it for general liver health.. I wouldn't rely solely on this for hepatotoxic steroidal compounds.. just my opinion.
You take the European enteric coated version (the hard red pills)? This version has been proven to both reverse jaundice and choleostasis.... and the dosing is about 6-9 pills per day. It's very different from the North American gel caps.

However, I take it along with TUDCA and the usuals, just to be safe. I've never had liver problems, and have run 8 week long heavy oral cycles in the past.... although not anymore because AAS is both far more effective and safer.
 
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Hey guys, for anyone who's interested, I'll post a pic later of the Liv.52 enteric caps from India, once I'm back home. If you have anything other than this version of liv.52, it won't do much, but this version is considered a drug in India, and is prescribed for jaundice, etc. Night and day difference between these and the gel caps, and literally only a few bux per bottle.
 
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Hey guys, for anyone who's interested, I'll post a pic later of the Liv.52 enteric caps from India, once I'm back home. If you have anything other than this version of liv.52, it won't do much, but this version is considered a drug in India, and is prescribed for jaundice, etc. Night and day difference between these and the gel caps, and literally only a few bux per bottle.
I'm very interested. My liver absolutely loves a good beating but it can't take one all the time.
 
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There it is, threw in an old bottle of liver juice for $hits n giggles too :D
 
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They look like skittles I'll probably pick some up!
 
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Gutterpump you ever have and issues with customs when ordering that stuff from India?
 

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You take the European enteric coated version (the hard red pills)? This version has been proven to both reverse jaundice and choleostasis.... and the dosing is about 6-9 pills per day. It's very different from the North American gel caps.

However, I take it along with TUDCA and the usuals, just to be safe. I've never had liver problems, and have run 8 week long heavy oral cycles in the past.... although not anymore because AAS is both far more effective and safer.
Yup.. that is what im talking about.. I think I was using 12 back in the day.
 
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Not for something legal like liv52.
True. I ordered other stuff alongside though, some hydrocortisone, which is why it got pulled. Wasn't a problem though, Got a letter stating that if I have a script for it, I could come get it. But they reshipped and it came in.
 

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True. I ordered other stuff alongside though, some hydrocortisone, which is why it got pulled. Wasn't a problem though, Got a letter stating that if I have a script for it, I could come get it. But they reshipped and it came in.
Customs took your stuff over hydrocortisone? Yikkes.
 
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Old school lifter who's also a TRT Doc out of SoCal, recommends MIC (L-Methionine, Inositol, and Choline Bitartrate). 1.5g/3g/3g On Cycle, half that for general health. He's on YouTube, look for "Ask The Doc". Bulk Supplements on Amazon has them all - I just started taking it.
 
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Sweet, choline and inositol are 2 things I supplement daily with and are staples. Only using about 1G a day of each regularly, but I'll follow his directions when on an oral.

Soy lecithin granules are something that contains both choline and inositol as well, plus some other goodies. I'm going to increase my intake of this too. I usually use soy lecithin granules when cutting as it helps remove fat from the liver.
 
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Sweet, choline and inositol are 2 things I supplement daily with and are staples. Only using about 1G a day of each regularly, but I'll follow his directions when on an oral.
Cool, so you found him? I can't remember the channel name. Yeah, he's real good - good info.
 

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Old school lifter who's also a TRT Doc out of SoCal, recommends MIC (L-Methionine, Inositol, and Choline Bitartrate). 1.5g/3g/3g On Cycle, half that for general health. He's on YouTube, look for "Ask The Doc". Bulk Supplements on Amazon has them all - I just started taking it.
Interesting.
 

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