Anyone get GI issues with High Volume?

[Admin]

Recently tried High Volume and love it but started having GI issues. I haven't changed anything other than high volume. Any suggestions?

It doesn't happen every time but it's the only new thing added recently. Could be interaction with diet but wondering if anyone has issues.

 

[ddfox]

Probably the choline. I couldn't use HV & Alphamine together.

 

[T-Bone]

Agamatine and other pump products do that to me sometimes. I've also read the Glycerol is associated with causing stomach upset.

 

[T-Bone]

Probably the choline. I couldn't use HV & Alphamine together.

I don't see choline listed in the supplement facts for High Volume.

 

[Admin]

I do use it with alphamine at times. Sometimes have issues, sometimes not. Trying to figure out if it's actually with HV or something in eating. I'm pretty set with my diet but I change some things. My wife really is hoping I find an answer. Lol

 

[kboxer7]

I do use it with alphamine at times. Sometimes have issues, sometimes not. Trying to figure out if it's actually with HV or something in eating. I'm pretty set with my diet but I change some things. My wife really is hoping I find an answer. Lol

I've had it happen as well from time to time with HV. For me it seems that it happens more so on occasions that I add in 200mg of caffeine to the mix.

 

[Admin]

Hmm...there is always definetly caffeine present when taking it. I also have a protein bar about an hour before and never had any problems before HV...but then again I don't have the same flavor and I do think there is a difference.

 

[BRUstrong]

Agamatine and other pump products do that to me sometimes. I've also read the Glycerol is associated with causing stomach upset.

Glycerol makes me nauseous. So this might be the culprit

 

[mechka_grizli]

Hmm...there is always definetly caffeine present when taking it. I also have a protein bar about an hour before and never had any problems before HV...but then again I don't have the same flavor and I do think there is a difference.

Glycerol makes me nauseous. So this might be the culprit

Willing to bet its the Glycerol. Hits me hard too

 

[Admin]

Going to try some different combo's and see if I get the same issues.

 

[bolt10]

Ya seen glycerol cause that for some. Keep us updated as you try different things out.

 

[ddfox]

I don't see choline listed in the supplement facts for High Volume.

Oops, Was thinking Ergonine!!!

 

[Synapsin]

It would most likely be the glycerol. When you say GI issues, what do you specifically mean?

 

[Admin]

Gas that melts the paint on the walls...

 

[Synapsin]

Gas that melts the paint on the walls...

Other than perhaps glycerol, I can't really see a reason why

 

[bdcc]

In an Alphamine and High Volume combo it is usually going to be the choline in Alphamine.

HV has never caused me any issues and I definitely have one of the most sensitive stomachs on this forum lol.

 

[Admin]

Still had issues yesterday but trying different combo today. Think I might have found the issue.

 

[EMG81]

Glycerol profoundly upsets my stomach, for what it's worth.

 

[Admin]

Well give me about 4-6 hours and I'll let you know if its actually HV...

 

[T-Bone]

Agmatine and other pump products do that to me sometimes. I've also read the Glycerol is associated with causing stomach upset.

Did I win?

 

[aaronuconn]

I've had issues with bulk GMS on an empty stomach, but never glycerol. In for feedback.

 

[Admin]

Success so far. Eliminated a very popular protein bar and nothing as of yet. It was a new box so I got suspicious.

 

[Driven2lift]

Success so far. Eliminated a very popular protein bar and nothing as of yet. It was a new box so I got suspicious.

Ive had this before,
As has The Solution iirc

 

[The Solution]

Success so far. Eliminated a very popular protein bar and nothing as of yet. It was a new box so I got suspicious.

Sugar Alcohols are the death of me in protein bars, thats why i avoid them like the plaque.

 

[T-Bone]

Sugar Alcohols are the death of me in protein bars, thats why i avoid them like the plaque.

 

[Synapsin]

Success so far. Eliminated a very popular protein bar and nothing as of yet. It was a new box so I got suspicious.

Glad you worked out the issue!

 

[luckylefty811]

High Volume is easy on my stomach

 

[Aleksandar37]

Sugar Alcohols are the death of me in protein bars, thats why i avoid them like the plaque.

Same here. I tried for a while, but it's just not worth it.

 

[rascal14]

Funniest response I've read in a while!! Lol

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Quest bars always result in a Quest to the toilet about an hour after consumption, the battle of Mordor usually takes place on toliet.

 

[bdcc]

Success so far. Eliminated a very popular protein bar and nothing as of yet. It was a new box so I got suspicious.

I once made a similar mistake.

Stronger effect than most laxatives I have used lol.

 

[Admin]

Quest bars always result in a Quest to the toilet about an hour after consumption, the battle of Mordor usually takes place on toliet.

Cinnamon bun wrecked me.

 

[Admin]

Ok, did some more investigating and foud out that Quest changed their formula August 1st to use Soluble Corn Fiber as their prebiotic fiber. Their reason is "bars will “stay soft longer and withstand heat better”. So thats the only thing I can find different from using them before and now....and now they give me the absolute worst GI issues.....gas that can melt your face. And it seems that 80 of their 190 calories is form fat? Was that always the case?

 

[Driven2lift]

Ok, did some more investigating and foud out that Quest changed their formula August 1st to use Soluble Corn Fiber as their prebiotic fiber. Their reason is "bars will “stay soft longer and withstand heat better”. So thats the only thing I can find different from using them before and now....and now they give me the absolute worst GI issues.....gas that can melt your face. And it seems that 80 of their 190 calories is form fat? Was that always the case?

Ya depending on which flavour,
Most of my faves were higher fat

 

[The Solution]

Ok, did some more investigating and foud out that Quest changed their formula August 1st to use Soluble Corn Fiber as their prebiotic fiber. Their reason is "bars will “stay soft longer and withstand heat better”. So thats the only thing I can find different from using them before and now....and now they give me the absolute worst GI issues.....gas that can melt your face. And it seems that 80 of their 190 calories is form fat? Was that always the case?

Correct most have 8-9g fat and around 20g carbs and 20g protein

Apple pie has 5g fat

 

[baxtecal]

Quest bars always result in a Quest to the toilet about an hour after consumption, the battle of Mordor usually takes place on toliet.

They do the opposite for me, they sit too good in my stomach... And may sit there for days...

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Ok, did some more investigating and foud out that Quest changed their formula August 1st to use Soluble Corn Fiber as their prebiotic fiber. Their reason is "bars will “stay soft longer and withstand heat better”. So thats the only thing I can find different from using them before and now....and now they give me the absolute worst GI issues.....gas that can melt your face. And it seems that 80 of their 190 calories is form fat? Was that always the case?

Interdasting, the prebiotic fibre was definitely what effected me previously. Maybe ill give this new formula bar and see if world war 3 is averted post ingestion.

 

[Admin]

Interdasting, the prebiotic fibre was definitely what effected me previously. Maybe ill give this new formula bar and see if world war 3 is averted post ingestion.

The new formula is what caused world war 3 for me. Old bars I have no problem with.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

The new formula is what caused world war 3 for me. Old bars I have no problem with.

Yeah going by the sensitivity of my GI i am not confident, but fortune favours the brave.

 

[Admin]

Yeah going by the sensitivity of my GI i am not confident, but fortune favours the brave.

Buy one...then wait. lol

 

[Auslifter]

On a quest to the toilet

 

[Admin]

On a quest to the toilet

The thing is, its not so much that....it creates the worst gas you've ever had....and I'm familiar what cheap whey can do....this is toxic...and doesn't go away.

 

[The Solution]

The thing is, its not so much that....it creates the worst gas you've ever had....and I'm familiar what cheap whey can do....this is toxic...and doesn't go away.

Here is the benefits of the Change:

http://blog.questnutrition.com/benefits-of-soluble-corn-fiber/

Most of the benefits from soluble corn fiber that couldn’t be found in IMO fiber emerge from the particular short-chain fatty acids that soluble corn fiber turns into while it moves into the large intestine1. The most abundant and important SCFAs are acetate, propionate, and butyrate, which all have considerable importance for human health

• Human studies show butyrate has anti-inflammatory effects, both in the gut4 and on wider-reaching systemic inflammations5, as well as benefits to the cardiovascular system6.
• Further studies on animals show a reduction in body fat percentage7, improved insulin sensitivity8, improved immune responses9, greater oxidization of fats10, and an increased sense of satiety11.
• Butyrate is also directly linked to H-DAC suppression in humans, which is one of the factors thought to be responsible for the anti-cancer effects12 of caloric restriction.
• Blood glucose and insulin responses to corn-based dietary fibers are excellent and extraordinarily predictable13.

 

[aceroni]

Recently tried High Volume and love it but started having GI issues. I haven't changed anything other than high volume. Any suggestions?

It doesn't happen every time but it's the only new thing added recently. Could be interaction with diet but wondering if anyone has issues.

I get serve gi discomfort from the glycerol.
Anything with glycerol.
Every single time.
Love pes though.

 

[Admin]

Here is the benefits of the Change:

http://blog.questnutrition.com/benefits-of-soluble-corn-fiber/

Most of the benefits from soluble corn fiber that couldn’t be found in IMO fiber emerge from the particular short-chain fatty acids that soluble corn fiber turns into while it moves into the large intestine1. The most abundant and important SCFAs are acetate, propionate, and butyrate, which all have considerable importance for human health

• Human studies show butyrate has anti-inflammatory effects, both in the gut4 and on wider-reaching systemic inflammations5, as well as benefits to the cardiovascular system6.
• Further studies on animals show a reduction in body fat percentage7, improved insulin sensitivity8, improved immune responses9, greater oxidization of fats10, and an increased sense of satiety11.
• Butyrate is also directly linked to H-DAC suppression in humans, which is one of the factors thought to be responsible for the anti-cancer effects12 of caloric restriction.
• Blood glucose and insulin responses to corn-based dietary fibers are excellent and extraordinarily predictable13.

No benefit to me. Its awful in terms of GI.

 

[The Solution]

No benefit to me. Its awful in terms of GI.

Just posting what their website says. Everyone wont respond well to change. Just trying to inform you based off what they did and why they did it.

 

[Admin]

I know. Have to look for a new bar now.

 

[The Solution]

I know. Have to look for a new bar now.

These are amazing

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This is coming from someone who rarely eats protein bars. I got a sample bar of each and was actually very surprised at how good they tasted and how easy it settled on my stomach because I am like you. Protein bars destroy me. Quest leaves me on the toilet.

 

[Admin]

Thanks Bob....i'll give them a try.

 

[The Solution]

Thanks Bob....i'll give them a try.

Trying out the cookie dough by Oh Yeah 1 today, the lemon one believe it or not was awesome and i am not a lemon fan. Speaks volume.
I know kbayne is strong on his protein bar game, he should be able to assist you further.