1/4 andro cycle helpfulness

rmoses123

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Hi!

What do you guys think of this cycle?
Is it ok?

Morning:
2 of each: 1 andro + 4 andro + cycle support

Evening:
2 of each: 1 andro + 4 andro + cycle support

Each andro capsule is 50mg.
Total of each andro: 200mg per day.
Running the cycle for 30 days.

PCT After that: PCT 3X + test booster.

Will be my first cycle with phoromones and I want to dip my feet at the water and not drown :)
 
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before you take anything, you need to read about using a serm in pct.
 

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100mg of each 1аndro and 4 andro is way too low. The minium effective dosage is at least 300mg of 1andro and 400mg of 4andro for at least 8weeks along with proper pct on hand
 
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From everything I read I saw that serm isn't needed with low dosages of 1+4 andro like I'm planning.

Isn't that correct?
 

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100mg per day of each is a waist of the product. If you search more on internet and read some real reviews and articles you will find out that effectiveness starts from at least 300mg for 1-ad and 400mg for 4-ad. Consider the fact that 4-ad needs higher dosage in the range of 500-800mg. 4 weeks is extremely short cycle for these mild compounds. They start to work from week 3
 
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Like everyone said triple dose that amount and lengthen the cycle to twice as long. 1&4andro does need to be dosed higher. I'm on TD and sublingual and I'm up to 525mg on 4ad
 
rmoses123

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The dosage I meant is "200mg a day each" meaning the total is 400mg a day not 200mg.

But ok - taken the advice I will up the dosage.

What do you guys think of the pct?

PCT 3X + test booster
Is it enough?

Thanks!
 
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personally i would try to pick up a serm and run that as well. Nolva or clomid would work.
 
rmoses123

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I have a way of getting nolva,
how much should I take and how to split the dosage through the PCT ?

and should I get nolva 10mg or 20mg?
 
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take the Novla @20/20/10/10. I'm nowhere near as experienced as most of these guys but I know enough to tell you never run anything that will mess with your hormones with out a serm. I started a run of 1-andro and epiandro at 300mgs each ed. I stopped after a week due to a death of a good friend, but I will tell you that I was feeling lethargic as all heck just after a week. Everyone reacts different. A serm will help you get your body back to normal faster than an otc test booster, that means you will have a greater chance of keeping your gains.
 
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hi again, sorry for the delay.

so please help me get a conclusion from this thread,
I can do like 400mg 1-andro and 400mg 4-andro a day for 8 weeks.

in order to do that with andro pills of 50mg I need 8 pills a day each.
if every bottle is 60 pills then for 60 days (8 weeks) i need 8 bottles of each.
and cycle support and pct.

is that correct?
that's sounds like a huge pile of money ~_~

assuming each andro bottle including shipping will cost around 50$
so 16 bottles will cost 800$
and that's without cycle support and pct.

is that crazy or is that normal?
 
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No need for a SERM... When did this start? Because PH's are banned now we want to push a SERM based PCT for a DHEA cycle? lol
 
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No need for a SERM... When did this start? Because PH's are banned now we want to push a SERM based PCT for a DHEA cycle? lol
This started when guys with no bloodwork pre and post PCT started just spewing what others were saying, and so the cycle continued...
 

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