Which Stim Free? HemaVo2, High Volume, or Conqu3r?

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  1. Cool Which Stim Free? HemaVo2, High Volume, or Conqu3r?


    Been trying to think this one over for a while and I'm undecided. I usually go 2 months on stims, and a month off. I'm looking for something to keep the intensity in the gym as far as performance/strength goes during my stim-free month. I have Ergonine on stock, but it would depend which one out of the three I want to run with.

    Cost is a concern (I see that Conqu3r would be the most expensive). I see some people taking only 1 scoop of HV which may be just a little underdosed that way. Conqu3r I see supplies nice pumps and ergogenic performance ingredients, and I can always throw in a cap or 2 of iForce KNO3 if I wanted more pumps (but would make it a lot more expensive). I also notice that HV and HemaVo2 may be more for pumps as far as I am reading, but I'm more concerned with the performance/ergogenic ingredients rather than pump tbh.

    A little undecided here, but I may have answered my own question as just get whatever one I can afford since all 3 are great options?


  2. I agree all three are great options. I like high volume. It's pretty good.
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  3. For your goals, I'd vote for Conqu3r. You should look into Ergonine as well

  4. Quote Originally Posted by BRUstrong View Post
    For your goals, I'd vote for Conqu3r. You should look into Ergonine as well
    Yeah, I would be using Ergonine on my stim break regardless of the stim-free (unless ingredients overlap), but I am more focused on keeping the intensity/strength/performance aspect and not so much as the pump for the looks. Especially since I am powerlifting I don't want to fall off when the stims end.
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    If Performance is your main feature you are looking for I would suggest Ergonine or Conqu3r non - stim
    Those are going to be more based for performance than Hemavo2 or HV which are more pump based non-stim pre-workouts

    Conqu3r non-stim gives you COP & Citrulline + Covers all your pump aspects to boot with Glycerol & Agmatine,
    Ergonine (LCLT, Betaine, Creatine,HICA) pure performance based

    if you want performance Ergonine
    Performance + PUMP = Conqu3r
    Pure pump = HV or Hemavo2
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    If Performance is your main feature you are looking for I would suggest Ergonine or Conqu3r non - stim
    Those are going to be more based for performance than Hemavo2 or HV which are more pump based non-stim pre-workouts

    Conqu3r non-stim gives you COP & Citrulline + Covers all your pump aspects to boot with Glycerol & Agmatine,
    Ergonine (LCLT, Betaine, Creatine,HICA) pure performance based

    if you want performance Ergonine
    Performance + PUMP = Conqu3r
    Pure pump = HV or Hemavo2
    Yeah, performance is my main purpose of taking any kind of pre-workout or ingredients in general. I like ones backed by research too and that have meaning.

    So Conqu3r seems like a great option and, if I DO need a bit more pump, I can always just throw in a cap or two of KNO3 if it's not too much for me to handle (since Conqu3r is nitrate-free).

    Is taking Ergonine AND Conqu3r too much?

    Bonus question: why would more people be interested in a pump that is only temporary vs performance which can lead to muscle and strength building?
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    Personal preference on pump vs performance. I agree performance should be the #1 feature, we workout to try and achieve/perform and increase our gym performance and also our physique. Pump is great, and it has its place like everything does
    but when i am going to workout i want to set myself up for optimal performance/endurnace/strength as much as possible.

    That is why Ergonine or Conqu3r non-stim would be your best bet

    you are getting 6g of Citrulline, Adequate Glycerol and Agmatine as well. those 3 things should illicit a good pump if you set up your carbs and intake properly for training.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Personal preference on pump vs performance. I agree performance should be the #1 feature, we workout to try and achieve/perform and increase our gym performance and also our physique. Pump is great, and it has its place like everything does
    but when i am going to workout i want to set myself up for optimal performance/endurnace/strength as much as possible.

    That is why Ergonine or Conqu3r non-stim would be your best bet

    you are getting 6g of Citrulline, Adequate Glycerol and Agmatine as well. those 3 things should illicit a good pump if you set up your carbs and intake properly for training.
    So do you think taking Ergonine AND Conqu3r is overkill? Or best just to get Conqu3r and throw in a few bulk ingredients on Ergonine (creatine mono, betaine and LCLT)?
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    It would stack very well together

    Proper:
    Creatine
    Agmatine
    Citrulline
    HICA
    Betaine
    Glycerol
    COP
    LCLT
    SynerGlut

    that right there is a recipe for success.
    @GNO or @Driven2lift can comment more as they work for the companies, but personally if you can afford it that is a perfect pre-workout non-stim stack.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Personal preference on pump vs performance. I agree performance should be the #1 feature, we workout to try and achieve/perform and increase our gym performance and also our physique. Pump is great, and it has its place like everything does
    but when i am going to workout i want to set myself up for optimal performance/endurnace/strength as much as possible.

    That is why Ergonine or Conqu3r non-stim would be your best bet

    you are getting 6g of Citrulline, Adequate Glycerol and Agmatine as well. those 3 things should illicit a good pump if you set up your carbs and intake properly for training.
    ^this guy knows!

    Conqu3r more than covers you in the pump department. It also gives you focus and performance benefits.

    I really enjoy the 600mg of Amento in the Stim-free version. I get better focus and energy with it.

    E9 and Conqu3r stacked should treat you very well!
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Personal preference on pump vs performance. I agree performance should be the #1 feature, we workout to try and achieve/perform and increase our gym performance and also our physique. Pump is great, and it has its place like everything does
    but when i am going to workout i want to set myself up for optimal performance/endurnace/strength as much as possible.

    That is why Ergonine or Conqu3r non-stim would be your best bet

    you are getting 6g of Citrulline, Adequate Glycerol and Agmatine as well. those 3 things should illicit a good pump if you set up your carbs and intake properly for training.
    ^this guy knows!

    Conqu3r more than covers you in the pump department. It also gives you focus and performance benefits.

    I really enjoy the 600mg of Amento in the Stim-free version. I get better focus and energy with it.

    E9 and Conqu3r stacked should treat you very well!
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Personal preference on pump vs performance. I agree performance should be the #1 feature, we workout to try and achieve/perform and increase our gym performance and also our physique. Pump is great, and it has its place like everything does
    but when i am going to workout i want to set myself up for optimal performance/endurnace/strength as much as possible.

    That is why Ergonine or Conqu3r non-stim would be your best bet

    you are getting 6g of Citrulline, Adequate Glycerol and Agmatine as well. those 3 things should illicit a good pump if you set up your carbs and intake properly for training.
    ^this guy knows!

    Conqu3r more than covers you in the pump department. It also gives you focus and performance benefits.

    I really enjoy the 600mg of Amento in the Stim-free version. I get better focus and energy with it.

    E9 and Conqu3r stacked should treat you very well!
    You can also checkout Olympus Vitality as an alternative to e9.

  13. If I use Conqu3r (it has 1g ALCAR), is it dumb to throw in 2g LCLT? Or what about only 1g LCLT to total 2g total of carnitine salts?

    Not sure if it's a big difference and won't overlap or whatever..

  14. Quote Originally Posted by bpshock View Post
    If I use Conqu3r (it has 1g ALCAR), is it dumb to throw in 2g LCLT? Or what about only 1g LCLT to total 2g total of carnitine salts?

    Not sure if it's a big difference and won't overlap or whatever..
    If you are using Ergonine with it, you'll get 2g LCLT

  15. Quote Originally Posted by bpshock View Post
    If I use Conqu3r (it has 1g ALCAR), is it dumb to throw in 2g LCLT? Or what about only 1g LCLT to total 2g total of carnitine salts?

    Not sure if it's a big difference and won't overlap or whatever..
    I would not say dumb but I don't feel you need more than 2g of carnitine.
    However, many have used 2-3g+ per day because of what they are stacking.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by GNO View Post
    I would not say dumb but I don't feel you need more than 2g of carnitine.
    However, many have used 2-3g+ per day because of what they are stacking.
    So if I have bulk LCLT powder lying around, would it be dumb to throw in 1g LCLT along with the 1g ALCAR? Or is that dose just neglible and not worth it, better saved for another time?

  17. Also, what do you guys think about Totalis 2.0 vs. Conqu3r stimmed as a pre-workout strictly PERFORMANCE based? (Assuming I am taking the creatine/beta alanine along with Conqu3r since it's not included).

    Do you think Conqu3r is more powerful due to COP and amentoflavone? Those are the only ingredients I see making a difference in performance output. Thoughts?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by bpshock View Post
    Also, what do you guys think about Totalis 2.0 vs. Conqu3r stimmed as a pre-workout strictly PERFORMANCE based? (Assuming I am taking the creatine/beta alanine along with Conqu3r since it's not included).

    Do you think Conqu3r is more powerful due to COP and amentoflavone? Those are the only ingredients I see making a difference in performance output. Thoughts?
    Perhaps I'm biased because I'm an OL Rep, but Conqu3r wins out in my opinion.

    I love the strength and endurance from amento & COP. Don't forget about the Alpha-GPC.

    Plus, Creatine and BA are inexpensive ingredients.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by GNO View Post
    Perhaps I'm biased because I'm an OL Rep, but Conqu3r wins out in my opinion.

    I love the strength and endurance from amento & COP. Don't forget about the Alpha-GPC.

    Plus, Creatine and BA are inexpensive ingredients.
    You sold me. I think it's best to take Conqu3r stimmed and throw in those essentials staples. Conqu3r seems like the legit best pre workout as far as performance goes, and even if pump is not there, it's nothing a few KNO3 caps won't do.

    I am HOPING that there are sales coming up this week on Conqu3r

    My plan is this:

    -Run conqu3r pre-workout (throwing in beta alanine, betaine, creatine mono, and l-taurine) for 8 weeks.
    -After 8 weeks is up, for 4 weeks I'll run a stim break with Ergonine + a few other essentials (the only reason I wanna break from Conqu3r and not run the stim free version is because I would like a break from amentoflavone).
    -After those 4 weeks, rinse and repeat!

  20. Quote Originally Posted by bpshock View Post
    You sold me. I think it's best to take Conqu3r stimmed and throw in those essentials staples. Conqu3r seems like the legit best pre workout as far as performance goes, and even if pump is not there, it's nothing a few KNO3 caps won't do.

    I am HOPING that there are sales coming up this week on Conqu3r

    My plan is this:

    -Run conqu3r pre-workout (throwing in beta alanine, betaine, creatine mono, and l-taurine) for 8 weeks.
    -After 8 weeks is up, for 4 weeks I'll run a stim break with Ergonine + a few other essentials (the only reason I wanna break from Conqu3r and not run the stim free version is because I would like a break from amentoflavone).
    -After those 4 weeks, rinse and repeat!
    sounds like a good plan my man.

    Who knows, in 8 weeks we may be able to meet your needs
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by GNO View Post
    sounds like a good plan my man.

    Who knows, in 8 weeks we may be able to meet your needs
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by NoAddedHmones View Post
    I know, do you know, you know?
    You are a smart cookie!
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  23. Idk what that means lol.. am I missing something here?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by bpshock View Post
    Idk what that means lol.. am I missing something here?
    Don't mind us, we are just teasing some stuff that will coming soon from OL.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by GNO View Post
    Don't mind us, we are just teasing some stuff that will coming soon from OL.
    Why GNO, what chu talking bout Willis?

    @bpshock you are going to love Conqu3r, not sure why you think the pump won't be there? there are multiple clinically dosed pump ingredients in Conqu3r DGE
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