- 04-10-2005, 10:49 PM
any one knows anything about endothil-cr. it was big in the arnold classic here is some info:
Endothil is a revolutionary new approach to building bigger, stronger muscles without steroids or steroid-like precursors. Clinical trials demonstrated that those who took the active Endothil compound experienced an amazing 100% increase in upper body strength versus placebo, a more than 247% increase in lower body strength versus placebo, and an increase in biceps circumference that was greater than four times the increase of the placebo group after just 6 short
sound to good to be true, but the company drawed lot of attention at the arnold, makes me think
also they have a published reasearch about the product:
- 04-10-2005, 10:54 PM
Looks like crap, anyone who makes those types of claims should not be believed. I would try though if I had some disposable income. I saw the money back guarentee, so you can return the empty bottle and get your money back.
04-10-2005, 10:59 PM
Originally Posted by T-Bone
yep sounds like crap......but this product is developed by real pharma company, not a supplemnt company. which makes me believe it may be good.
04-10-2005, 11:51 PM
Looks very interesting, wish they would say exactly whats in it. This summer I may give it a shot when I have more money.
04-11-2005, 02:49 AM
From the research PDF on their website. Those improvements were based on a 10 rep max of the mentioned exercises.Results
After six weeks, the subjects who took the active compound experienced a
significant (p<0.05) increase in both upper and lower body strength as well as in
circumference of the biceps muscle. Specifically, the amount of weight bench
pressed increased by 10 lbs. in subjects receiving ECR’s core compound
compared to an increase of 5 lbs. in subjects receiving placebo. The amount of
weight leg pressed increased 70 lbs. in the experimental group versus 20 lbs. in
placebo treated subjects. The treatment group experienced a significant increase
in biceps circumference that was more than four times that of the placebo group,
who experienced almost no increase in biceps circumference (p=0.03). There
were no significant changes between the two groups in quadriceps
circumference, % body fat, % lean body mass, weight, or body mass index.
04-11-2005, 03:13 AM
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04-11-2005, 01:54 PM
Maybe I am not quite awake yet, but I've heard the hype from this stuff before, and hearing that its powered by "Green Tomato" is blowing my mind.
04-11-2005, 02:32 PM
Perhaps one could get the same effect while on PCT by taking a bunch of Clomid and crying while watching Fried Green Tomatoes.
04-11-2005, 02:37 PM
OK, now I get it. i have about a months worth from the Arnold. I don't even want to take it, its just a waste of saliva.Originally Posted by mmorpheuss
04-11-2005, 02:57 PM
Maybe I should go to the store and stock up on green ketchup, learn to put it on everything, mix it with my post-workout protein, grow like a weed.
04-11-2005, 02:59 PM
you should do a log about it, and tell us what its dose. im sure it wont kill you.Originally Posted by ChemicalD
04-11-2005, 03:02 PM
04-12-2005, 11:22 AM
just out of curiosity i did a search on google for green tomato extract, and found basically nothing
04-12-2005, 01:56 PM
YOU should do a log of it. I will send you the endothil for shipping. I think it's common knowledge it will do nothing.Originally Posted by x_muscle
04-13-2005, 03:42 AM
ok since im off cycle, i can try its. i can paypal you shipping coasts if your serious, just give my your email and shipping coasts.Originally Posted by ChemicalD
04-13-2005, 01:32 PM
whats the shipping cost to return the empty bottle and get your money back ... and how long does it take for them to send you the refund, thats the catch
04-13-2005, 02:42 PM
I bet a SASE would cover it. Realistically it is about 10 packs of 2 (?) tabs in each. PM me, I cannot post my personal info.Originally Posted by x_muscle
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