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I am not really sure what this is supposed to do and how it does it? Can I still take my pre-workout with it? Can I take creatine with it? Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks.
Oral or TD? I am finishing up a cycle of Tr3n/Stano and am thinking about adding unleashed to my PCT (have all of the staples of course). I've read some reviews and know that TD provides longer, stable levels and oral is good for a pwo kick. I'm leaning toward TDI have this in the mail and looking forward to running it.
I know some people have used both concurrently (ie. A cap pwo and a squirt after showering 4-6hrs away)Oral or TD? I am finishing up a cycle of Tr3n/Stano and am thinking about adding unleashed to my PCT (have all of the staples of course). I've read some reviews and know that TD provides longer, stable levels and oral is good for a pwo kick. I'm leaning toward TD
Just jumped on that NV deal and pulled the trigger on a bottle of td and a bottle of oral! Will probably run it the same as youRunning the TD at one pump a day and using the 2 caps pre-workout. Great stuff EP1C Unleashed!!
I tested TD EP1C unleashed before it was released and the only other supp i used for the 6 weeks was caffeine/coffee. Had awesome results, there are some before and after pics in one of the EP1C threadsthis thread is interesting
What do you guys find useful taking epic unleashed with? I'm stim sensitive and don't take PWO besides coffee atm.
would extra fish oil be good? Bc I heard some people get joint ache when taking epic unleashed.
Users have experienced increased recovery with Unleashed so I doubt it will cause sore joints.this thread is interesting
What do you guys find useful taking epic unleashed with? I'm stim sensitive and don't take PWO besides coffee atm.
would extra fish oil be good? Bc I heard some people get joint ache when taking epic unleashed.
Yes most people like the caps for that PW kick in the gymso some people have successfully been running 1cap oral prewo, and 1 dose/squirt of the td later on /day?
can you explain what this means? You actually feel it when it is working like a PWO?Yes most people like the caps for that PW kick in the gym
It's not a stim effect, but the endurance and muscle fullness is more immediate with the caps PW verses the TD version.can you explain what this means? You actually feel it when it is working like a PWO?
If it has a stim effect I might have to take just one when i get it instead of 2 as recommended.
I dunno, this is all new to me lol. But I like how people say it works so good on a cut. Thats what i look forward to using it for the most.
As bcazo stated you don't get any Stim effect so take a pre-wo as usual if you like, it's just the oral is faster acting so beneficial pre-wo.can you explain what this means? You actually feel it when it is working like a PWO?
If it has a stim effect I might have to take just one when i get it instead of 2 as recommended.
I dunno, this is all new to me lol. But I like how people say it works so good on a cut. Thats what i look forward to using it for the most.
I have used it before bed and just wore a shirt on top. No problems and still woke up not just morning shred but the fullness was ridiculous. Try and let me know how it goes for youI got a question. If you were to stack caps and TD, could you use the TD at night before bed? The reason i ask is i want to take this stack but with it being summer and all i don't really have a good time other than at night to let sit for a couples hours to absorb.
Also would it be beneficial to take it at night or just skip the TD and only use caps?
CJNatorWeek by week generally what should one expect from Ep1c Unleased, I was just curious since I just started it Monday.
Ok sweet. I thought it would. This could just be some terrible broscience but it makes sense to me. I was thinking that since you grow when you sleep why not have the myostatin decrease and follistatin increase during the that time.I have used it before bed and just wore a shirt on top. No problems and still woke up not just morning shred but the fullness was ridiculous. Try and let me know how it goes for you
Lol true I do like a suprise! I've been excited for the gainz since I started it !CJNator
Why spoil the surprise (akin to an am boner)
what is your goal right now (add mass)?Lol true I do like a suprise! I've been excited for the gainz since I started it !
From what I heard I should be great on a cut and I threw it in with xcels LGD which proved to be crappy(why I threw it in early) and GW so I'm testing it on a cut to see if I can still gain muscle while on it.what is your goal right now (add mass)?
you are deffinitely thinking too much into the Folli/Myo mechanism with -Epi. IMO, the results are going to come from increasing your work capacity in the gym (Strength, Volume, frequency). Hence dosing around workouts would be optimal.Ok sweet. I thought it would. This could just be some terrible broscience but it makes sense to me. I was thinking that since you grow when you sleep why not have the myostatin decrease and follistatin increase during the that time.
Cool bro and sorry to hear that ... hopefully there will be some good quality LGD and GW on the market soonFrom what I heard I should be great on a cut and I threw it in with xcels LGD which proved to be crappy(why I threw it in early) and GW so I'm testing it on a cut to see if I can still gain muscle while on it.
Edit: I have a log up if you want to follow!
^this. The TD is not necessarily better pre-bed I would dose at the time if 1) it's convenient based on your workout/showering scheduling 2) you are stacking with the oral pre-woyou are deffinitely thinking too much into the Folli/Myo mechanism with -Epi. IMO, the results are going to come for increasing your work capacity in the gym (Strength, Volume, frequency). Hence dosing around workouts would be optimal.
Although for peace of mind you can do half daily dose in morning and half in the PM and the long skin absorption time will have you covered for the most part of day/night anyways...^this. The TD is not necessarily better pre-bed I would dose at the time if 1) it's convenient based on your workout/showering scheduling 2) you are stacking with the oral pre-wo
There is zero issues with dosing upon waking and before bed man.The issue is i don't have a good time for TD application other than before bed.
Then post shower and pre bed... Remember TD absorption is slow, will make next to no acute difference squirting some on prior to your workout.I lift as soon as i wake up then shower when i get home. I think that the sweat and shower would affect the absorption
I have literally never heard anyone complaining about joints while on any epi product, let alone Ep1c Unleashed.this thread is interesting
What do you guys find useful taking epic unleashed with? I'm stim sensitive and don't take PWO besides coffee atm.
would extra fish oil be good? Bc I heard some people get joint ache when taking epic unleashed.
so some people have successfully been running 1cap oral prewo, and 1 dose/squirt of the td later on /day?
If you can, link it up!From what I heard I should be great on a cut and I threw it in with xcels LGD which proved to be crappy(why I threw it in early) and GW so I'm testing it on a cut to see if I can still gain muscle while on it.
Edit: I have a log up if you want to follow!
Don't be teasing us like that and here h t t p://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267809 can't post up links yetCool bro and sorry to hear that ... hopefully there will be some good quality LGD and GW on the market soon
Throw up a link to the log
Just make sure you're subbed to this thread....Don't be teasing us like that and here h t t p://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267809 can't post up links yet
I am!Just make sure you're subbed to this thread....
You are correct applying immediately after a shower is best. Product will dry in a few seconds, then you can moisturize shortly afterI bet the best time to apply the transdermal is aftershower cause the skin pores are open. I guess theres no problems mixing it with moisturisers?
And how long does it take to absorb? sorry I couldn't find this info from the other thread.
sounds interesting and effective, since caps are quite useful for that pre-workout dosing. Let us know how it goes!I bought 2cap and 1 TD. So I'm panning running caps preworkout and 1 pump before bed on workout days. On off days I'm gonna do 2 pumps TD in the morning and no caps. How does that sound?
Ill try to but no promises. Especially pics i cant not figure out how to upload pics every time i try to it says file size is to big to uploadsounds interesting and effective, since caps are quite useful for that pre-workout dosing. Let us know how it goes!
Pics, log, etc, link it here
Happens to me with my iPhone pics... email them back to yourself and select small or medium file size when you paste the pic into the email.Ill try to but no promises. Especially pics i cant not figure out how to upload pics every time i try to it says file size is to big to upload
I have to crop it on my phone for it to fit.Ill try to but no promises. Especially pics i cant not figure out how to upload pics every time i try to it says file size is to big to upload
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