BPS Sustain Alpha

[Joshlm69]

Is anyone using this?

Any feedback on the product?

Ive just started using @ 2 pumps a day, wondering how people are finding this new version

 

[BigBlackGuy]

Let me grab some feedback for you.

Keep in mind anything referring to the smell/lotion/carrier that was previously used doesn't apply to the BPS sustain alpha. Ingredient profile is the same from old to new version.

A lot of these are from the new version, I can't link to the posts because I don't have 5000 posts (a mere 4100+).

Side Effects: None at all to speak of other than I'm a little more moody.

Results thus far: I'm only 6 days in on this and already my libido has gotten a generous spike. I usually never get boners in the gym but I did today.

so i decided to give the Sustain alpha a try...im skeptical about any supplement because most of them are worthless...

anyways just finsihed up a 6 week cutter testosterone propionate/masteron


PCT - post cycle therapy - nolvadex 60mg 7 days 40 mg 7 days 30mg 7 days
thats what i always do every time and it works for me blah blah


anyways i added in Sustain 5 pumps a day every day...after a week being off and into PCT - post cycle therapy - i can tell it does something..still making gains,still wanting to and actually getting wood a few times throughout the night...which is odd because during PCT - post cycle therapy - i usually dont consider ing till around a month or so after my cycle ends....anyways its only been a week so thats all i can say now...Sustain does something i can tell...seems to give you the feeling of still having motivation and not feeling weak...no sense of crash yet...guess ill wait another 2 weeks and see where i am at to make the final call..but as of now i would recommend it just for the balance it seems to give..

Mental Performance has been pretty good whilst on Sustain Alpha. I have had a lot on my plate re this area and was highly stressed for the first few weeks of using Sustain Alpha, but I have managed to get all done as required and to a high standard.

I enjoyed my time on Sustain Alpha. Although I was using other products, the period that I used Sustain Alpha over was the most successful recomp period that I have ever done; and by this I mean that I gained lean mass and lost BF at a ratio of 1.5:1, which is a lot better than usual, where I normally gain reasonable lean mass and only lose a minute amount of BF. Not to mention that at 5 days on/2 days off Sustain Alpha lasts me 6.5 weeks, making it quite affordable to use.

Prior to Sustain Alpha I very rarely woke up with morning wood. My sex drive was fairly low with the stresses of starting a new job and intercourse with my girlfriend was a fairly rare situation despite us living together and sleeping in the same bed every night.

During the first couple of weeks there was not a lot to report on. Subtle changes were there but nothing substantial. On the final week of this product I noticed the following;

- More frequent morning erections
- Erections which were much harder than usual
- Higher sex drive
- More frequent masturbation when I was on my own

For a libido based product, it delivered.

i used it today for the first time in the AM after a shower 4 pumps on the shoulder - chest - arms:

- Skin itching or burning for about a minute or less
- the whole day in a very aggressive mode
- muscles are pumped and hard

libido is so high with SA!
30 minutes after usage and you are ready to go!

i find my cardio to be improved on days i use sustain alpha. my veins also dilate within minutes for about an hour after application.

also fall asleep much more quickly if i apply after my night shower!

ive been on about 4 weeks now think may6th will be 4 weeks it says you can take up to 4weeks straight ive been useing only 2.5 pumps a day love this stuff!!

I've been using it at 3 pumps/day and am experiencing pretty well all the positive effects expected (libido, well being, endurance boost, etc). No signs of estrogen suppression too low, everything's good. On cycling it, I just remember the 5 on, 2 off being recommended as to not becoming used to it. But so far I think everyday is definitely the way to go.

I like to give kudos when kudos is due, so here goes...
I ordered some Sustain on presale. I have used every version of topical Sustain from PP's lotion to PP's gel. I applied BPS's version for the first time this morning. First thoughts are remarkable. I found PP's gel to be quite strong in smell to the point that I'd smell it all day. This version is perfect. Application dried in no time and the consistency was perfect. Smell was great and not strong at all. I'm very happy with the latest version. Thanks BPS!

 

[NattyForLife]

That is some good looking feedback!

 

[Joshlm69]

I put this on my balls this AM.

It's an experience I'll tell you, haha

 

[NattyForLife]

Serious?

 

[Joshlm69]

Best absorption spot on the body bro

 

[NattyForLife]

Yea ive heard of people putting dermacrine and sustain alpha on the scrotum before! I have never done it though! Notice any acute effects?

 

[Joshlm69]

Only did it once, won't again haha.

Question ; since I've been using sustain alpha, my testes usually ache a bit for 1-2 hours after.... Is this something to do with my estrogen levels ? Does it mean I'm using too much ? Currently using 3 pumps after morning shower

 

[alwaysfirst]

Yea ive heard of people putting dermacrine and sustain alpha on the scrotum before! I have never done it though! Notice any acute effects?

I put test cream on my balls, lol, but I didn't noticed and diffence from putting it on my shoulders or forearms, it's was only more annoying!

 

[alvin1]

Only did it once, won't again haha.

Question ; since I've been using sustain alpha, my testes usually ache a bit for 1-2 hours after.... Is this something to do with my estrogen levels ? Does it mean I'm using too much ? Currently using 3 pumps after morning shower

What was the difference to apply it there? What did you feel? Pain?

 

[NattyForLife]

I put test cream on my balls, lol, but I didn't noticed and diffence from putting it on my shoulders or forearms, it's was only more annoying!

Applying to the scrotum compared to shoulders, inner thighs, upper chest, etc probably has a minuscule difference in effect(if any)!

 

[Joshlm69]

This stuff is pretty damn awesome for libido

takes a week or two to kick in, but when it does youll know.

Noticed a significant difference going from 2 pumps to 3

 

[NattyForLife]

This stuff is pretty damn awesome for libido

takes a week or two to kick in, but when it does youll know.

Noticed a significant difference going from 2 pumps to 3

Good to hear bud! Notice any other effects, such as increased recovery, etc?

 

[Joshlm69]

Definitely have noticed less doms, but I have Been taking sustain alpha with ergo nine so hard to tell which one is aiding the recovery. Feel great everyday even when super tired , sustain alpha gives you a certain "content" feeling

 

[NattyForLife]

Definitely have noticed less doms, but I have Been taking sustain alpha with ergo nine so hard to tell which one is aiding the recovery. Feel great everyday even when super tired , sustain alpha gives you a certain "content" feeling

Well, im glad you are liking it bud! Let us know if you have any questions about it, or if you notice any other effects!

 

[TexasLifter89]

if its same as old school sustain alpha by primodial performance then it's good stuff

 

[NattyForLife]

Its the same as far as i know!

 

[storm 011]

why the new SA does not report the lot number and expiration date?

 

[NattyForLife]

Not sure! Will see what i can find outn

 

[Octavarium]

Is it still working after stopping it? How much time did you need to feel recovered?

I want to give it a try since a lot of people says it improves your libido and got rid of ED.

 

[iThrow]

Is it still working after stopping it? How much time did you need to feel recovered?

I want to give it a try since a lot of people says it improves your libido and got rid of ED.

like most natural products there is a spill over of a few weeks but most likely test/est will return to normal after some time. however it can improve it slightly in the long run, but to be sure, bloodwork is the only way to check longevity on products like this

It is a great help with ED improving libido, and other sexual functions!

 

[Octavarium]

What if I messed up my androgen receptors in my genital area with a product? Will it help me to "awake" them and turn them to what they were before? In reality I don't want to boost my testosterone to abnormal levels, I want to try to get them to what they were before a treatment I did two years ago.

My test levels are normal but I don't know how they were before. I was using a well known product that acts as a DHT blocker and I think I messed up my androgen receptors in that area because I almost always feel cold and shrunken down there. Viagra, Cialis or Levitra don't seem to work as they should, and this feeling is getting annoying. The only two things that were below average in the bloodwork were progesterone and cortisol, but my endocrinologist says it has nothing to do with ED.

I hope this product can help me find a solution for this.

 

[muree]

DHT is the king for libido. sustain alpha from my knowledge works on increasing test by stopping too much aromatization (conversion of testosterone to estrogen). You can try SA but you most probably are experiencing symptoms of low DHT (low libido and not much sensation). Butea Superba and sorghum flour are known to increase DHT levels, give them a try as well.

 

[Octavarium]

Would you recommend me to try SA as well? Could those products that you mentioned restore my DHT to the normal levels in the long term? (I guess it depends on what my problem is about)

Now I'm using a product based on Saw Palmetto that my urologist recommended me to see if my problem is about my prostate, but it has been almost a month and my cold feeling down there hasn't disappeared. I'm only 31 and it all started when I used that DHT blocker called Minoxidil.

It happens that I saw a guy saying that SA worked for him, having used Minoxidil like me and having the same symptoms, but he disappeared and I found him in another forum saying that SA only worked while he was on it. Maybe I should try a long term treatment cycling it?

 

[muree]

minoxidil is a nasty compound.. used it years ago to combat hair loss and suffered irregular heart beat, extreme anxiety along with a totally limp dick. took me about a month to recover after stopping minoxidil. your best bet is to wait it out for a couple of more weeks. if you had good erections prior to using minoxidil then they usually get back to baseline after 4-6 weeks. a quality tongkat product (viron) along with some good maca can also boost libido quite a bit. I am no doctor so take these as just suggestions and consult your urologist prior to taking any herbs.

 

[Octavarium]

Unfortunately, I am some of the guys who hasn't recovered in a long time after stopping it. I can assure that it is not psychological since I have a gf and I'm happy with her. My symptoms are 100% physical and they started after 3 months of using it. I think I could have accidentally applied some to my genitals after applying it on my scalp and this could be the reason why the effects are still lasting since a year and a half. I do not recommend this poison to anybody, I hope there is a cure for people like me because the internet is full of guys who are desperate to find whatever takes them to their original sexual state since bloodwork doesn't seem to show any evidences...

 

[Octavarium]

By the way, I have tried maca and it has been the only thing that has barely worked compared to Arginine + vitamin E or any Viagra derivated product (which have only worked a few times).

 

[iThrow]

sounds like you may want to look into dermacrine vs sustain alpha in my opinion

 

[Octavarium]

Does Demacrine do something that SA doesn't? Doesn't it have more side effects than SA?

 

[iThrow]

Does Demacrine do something that SA doesn't? Doesn't it have more side effects than SA?

think of it as a non "herbal based" topical. its a test base vs a test booster if that makes sense. it has DHEA, resveratrol, pregnolone, so its stronger. pregnolone is kind of known as the king of sexual hormones, it regulates darn near everything!

 

[Octavarium]

I will check this one out as well, thank you!

 

[iThrow]

I will check this one out as well, thank you!

yeah toss up any questions here or head over to the BPS company section and read more about it, ask any one of our reps were all here to help brother! also are you a dream theater fan also? noticed your name

 

[Octavarium]

Exactly! DT rocks! Thank you very much. I hope I can get rid of this "nightmare to remember" (DT reference, lol).

 

[muree]

Yes Dermacrine might be a better fit than SA for your situation. keep us updated and goodluck with the recovery

 

[Octavarium]

I will buy them as soon as I can because both are ****ing expensive here in Europe, but I rather trying them than feeling limp the rest of my life.

I wanted to ask you something: Since pregnolone is a corticosteroid, doesn't it create some kind of pituitary supression and at the same time an addiction?

I tell you that because I am using corticosteroids for an eccema and I recently read that it's creating me an addiction, which worsens my eccema if I overuse it. I also read that it is very hard and dangerous for your health to take corticosteroids out of your body and that you cannot stop them immediately.

Do you know anything about this?

 

[Octavarium]

From what I read about both products, I see Sustain Alpha is a lot more natural and less dangerous. Am I right?

 

[Thefatbloke]

Saw Palmetto will lower DHT and reduce libido.
I suggest you try to optimise testosterone and DHT levels. Ensure you have good intakes of magnesium, Zinc and Omega 3s. Consider a test booster bases on something with evidence fadogia, bulbine etc DAA might work if you have a low test (not if you have normal test)
Then improve DHT by taking creatine, boron, sorghum, dietary fats and do big compound exercises.

Avoid crushing oestrogen with overuse of AIs as oestrogen is needed for libido.

 

[iThrow]

From what I read about both products, I see Sustain Alpha is a lot more natural and less dangerous. Am I right?

Sustain Alpha is the "natural" way to go, however Dermacrine is considered a "Test base", something a lot of people would use on cycle with a PH/AAS (mainly PH). It can mimic/increase your testosterone endogenously. This is through the use of DHEA. A lot of people who struggle with low libido also have an issue with low DHEA levels or suppressed DHEA levels in the body.

as far as the pregnenolone, you fear you are becoming addicted to it? I guess I may not be understanding your question there.

 

[iThrow]

If you are worried about "shut down" meaning your body will stop producing pregnenolone because you are supplementing it, that should not be an issue.

 

[Octavarium]

In reality, all my levels are normal except for progesterone and cortisol.

Do you recommend me any supplement that contains magnesium, zinc and Omega 3 in the same product? I use olive oil in the breakfast because it is said that it contains a lot of vitamin E and Omega 3.

 

[Octavarium]

If you are worried about "shut down" meaning your body will stop producing pregnenolone because you are supplementing it, that should not be an issue.

I will try to translate what I read into English:

"Every corticosteroid has numerous and different actions. In humans, a single dose during a short or a long term (for some days) hasn't practically got a negative impact. Nevertheless, the long term use of corticosteroids might result on the supression of the pituitary function. The maximum daily dose for this effect is around 0.5 mg for an individual who weighs 50 kg".

This appears on the Spanish version of the pregnenolone article in Wikipedia.

 

[iThrow]

I will try to translate what I read into English:

"Every corticosteroid has numerous and different actions. In humans, a single dose during a short or a long term (for some days) hasn't practically got a negative impact. Nevertheless, the long term use of corticosteroids might result on the supression of the pituitary function. The maximum daily dose for this effect is around 0.5 mg for an individual who weighs 50 kg".

This appears on the Spanish version of the pregnenolone article in Wikipedia.

like most supplements, even preworkout, if you take the same dose for a long period of time, the effects start to diminish and you will become reliant on it for a while.

lets take caffeine for an example. supplementing with a preworkout that has 200mg of caffeine for the first two weeks it will feel amazing but by week three maybe you bump to a scoop and a half, and you have a little less energy out of the gym. week for you bump to 2 scoops. and feel a little drained outside of the gym. your adrenal glands are so used to you pumping yourself with caffeine, you will slowly have less energy come gym time and after because of that. (in short--- I could elaborate but I assume you get this jist)

In your case, how long have you been using the previous corticosteroid? the difference, like you stated there, is that every corticosteroid has different actions. as long as they are affecting a different gland/receptor/action, then you would be fine, however if you are running something like dermacrine for longer than the recommended "on" time. then you may run into issues. does that help?

as far as supplementing. id recommend looking into a boron/tongkat product like Viron by BLR as well. that definitely did wonders for my libido, and I never even had an issue with it

 

[Octavarium]

Yeah! The adrenal glands! This is what I wanted to tell you but I didn't remember.

I read that even Minoxidil and corticosteroids can cause adrenal fatigue and that it could be life threatening. Since I have a chronic eccema I have been changing from one product to another but the only one which seems to work is the one with corticosteroids, although I am aware that I must not overuse it because my skin could become very weak and the effects will not be the same after a long use.

I guess my first hormonal problem comes from corticosteroids, and Minoxidil worsened it. After using Minoxidil I felt so depressed and tired, with irregular heartbeats and unwanted facial hair "like the prospect says", and my libido went rock-bottom.

Do you mean that if I started using Dermacrine I should cycle that product not to use it a long time until I feel "normal"? How much time should I use it and how do I cycle it? Do I have to apply it on the testicles or it's only on the torso?

 

[iThrow]

Yeah! The adrenal glands! This is what I wanted to tell you but I didn't remember.

I read that even Minoxidil and corticosteroids can cause adrenal fatigue and that it could be life threatening. Since I have a chronic eccema I have been changing from one product to another but the only one which seems to work is the one with corticosteroids, although I am aware that I must not overuse it because my skin could become very weak and the effects will not be the same after a long use.

I guess my first hormonal problem comes from corticosteroids, and Minoxidil worsened it. After using Minoxidil I felt so depressed and tired, with irregular heartbeats and unwanted facial hair "like the prospect says", and my libido went rock-bottom.

Do you mean that if I started using Dermacrine I should cycle that product not to use it a long time until I feel "normal"? How much time should I use it and how do I cycle it? Do I have to apply it on the testicles or it's only on the torso?

makes sense with everything you said however these products you would be taking are not life threatening, any type of dermatitis can be a b*tch. ive worked with kids who had major issues, its a shame.

As far as application goes NO do not apply anywhere near your junk!!!! bad idea however you will apply to think skin, such as upper chest, forearms shoulders traps and wrists. also places without hair such as inner thigh (not by your junk) can work too. you definitely will need to cycle dermacrine. I have seen 8 week cycles but maybe see how you feel on 4 at first, also like I said maybe get a product such as viron or anything with longjack/tongkat/boron
that was a killer combo for my libido

 

[Octavarium]

And what about Sustain Alpha? I have read that people recommend it to be applied to your lower torso, biceps and even testicles. Is that ok because it is a natural product?

Why shouldn't I apply it to my junk? (Sorry, I'm very curious about that and I want to know everything before taking risks by myself. haha)

makes sense with everything you said however these products you would be taking are not life threatening, any type of dermatitis can be a b*tch. ive worked with kids who had major issues, its a shame.

As far as application goes NO do not apply anywhere near your junk!!!! bad idea however you will apply to think skin, such as upper chest, forearms shoulders traps and wrists. also places without hair such as inner thigh (not by your junk) can work too. you definitely will need to cycle dermacrine. I have seen 8 week cycles but maybe see how you feel on 4 at first, also like I said maybe get a product such as viron or anything with longjack/tongkat/boron
that was a killer combo for my libido

 

[iThrow]

And what about Sustain Alpha? I have read that people recommend it to be applied to your lower torso, biceps and even testicles. Is that ok because it is a natural product?

Why shouldn't I apply it to my junk? (Sorry, I'm very curious about that and I want to know everything before taking risks by myself. haha)

apply it to thin skin, biceps could work, hip bone area could work, not testicles. You don't want to apply to that area even though thin is skin. From what I have ben told and read about topicals is there are other places that are better suited. Maybe BPS can chime in to verify this is an ok place to apply.

 

[Octavarium]

I say this because benzoflavones supposedly prevent testosterone to be aromatised and controls estrogen levels naturally. But it's ok, I will post any other doubts if I have more and I will keep you updated when I start using some of these products.

Thank you very much!

apply it to thin skin, biceps could work, hip bone area could work, not testicles. You don't want to apply to that area even though thin is skin. From what I have ben told and read about topicals is there are other places that are better suited. Maybe BPS can chime in to verify this is an ok place to apply.

 

[iThrow]

I say this because benzoflavones supposedly prevent testosterone to be aromatised and controls estrogen levels naturally. But it's ok, I will post any other doubts if I have more and I will keep you updated when I start using some of these products.

Thank you very much!

not a problem my man, there are other AI inhibitors in the product though so I wouldn't worry too much about that. plus you need estrogen for that sex drive

 

[Lynks8]

Minoxidil is not a dht blocker. This sounds to me partly like you've worked things up into a big mental block. All the more reason to give a test booster a shot, since it may help you mentally overcome that hurdle. I can tell you that sustain alpha didn't do too much for me, even at 5 pumps, but there is such overwhelming positive feedback on the product I wouldn't hesitate to try it if I were you.

 

[Octavarium]

I have seen reports claiming that it acts as a DHT blocker that prevents follicles of being choked by this hormone, some reports say it's only used to lower blood pressure. The thing is that hundreds of men are reporting those symptoms like, for example, coldness on testicles and dick (with a limp sensation), extremely low libido, and sometimes even poor ejaculations. I wonder what's the reason it doesn't come back to the original state on some men. Not only that, sometimes the penis keeps shrinking and it doesn't improve in months.

I promise I didn't know a **** of those symptoms until they started to happen, that's when I did a research and found that many people had them.

I came here because I saw a guy explaining the same thing in a forum and trying Sustain Alpha, which was the only thing that worked for him. But after that he stopped posting in that forum, and I found him in other forum saying that it only worked while he was on it.

I know all of this is very complex and annoying but I ask you all these things because I want to try anything that can help me recover my libido and my sexual functions to what they were almost 2 years ago.

Minoxidil is not a dht blocker. This sounds to me partly like you've worked things up into a big mental block. All the more reason to give a test booster a shot, since it may help you mentally overcome that hurdle. I can tell you that sustain alpha didn't do too much for me, even at 5 pumps, but there is such overwhelming positive feedback on the product I wouldn't hesitate to try it if I were you.