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what do you guys think is the best single GDA....Berberine, Vanadyl sulcate,ext
 
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Berberine IMO
 
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I like agmatine or Na-R-Ala. never tried berberine solo though
 
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Haven't ever taken berberine solo before, but I have used Na-R-ALA solo and do like that.

My go-to these days is NaRALA + Slintensity and I love it.
 
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Haven't ever taken berberine solo before, but I have used Na-R-ALA solo and do like that. My go-to these days is NaRALA + Slintensity and I love it.
We all miss Ssv2
 
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We all miss Ssv2
All I know is Slintensity is my fav (and I started with AP, P-slin, then OG slin-sane, LG's slin, and I think a few others -- drawing a blank atm).

When Matt was updating the formula, I got really mad because I loved it lol, but the current version is somehow even better (and when I open the bottle it smells like pancakes, so I get happy LOL).
 
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I believe NP used to sell "yellow gold" which was bulk berberine but it hasn't been in stock in forever
 
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I found plenty of sources for bulk berberine across the internet, can someone tell me a good dosing protocol?
 
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I found plenty of sources for bulk berberine across the internet, can someone tell me a good dosing protocol?
DON'T LET IT TOUCH YOUR ANY PART OF YOUR MOUTH!
 
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the best time is 30minutes prior to a meal. This has to due with the time it takes to prevent adipocyte differentiation...

i cant seem to find the figure im looking for (from a scientific article) that shows that time.. but...



Heres a great study
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ecam/2012/363845/

Along with saying this i would say 100mg berberine per 10g carb... but in all reality its pretty hard to determine those carbohydrate amounts without a blood glucose monitor
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The standard dose of berberine is 900-2,000mg a day, divided into three to four doses.

Berberine should be taken with a meal, or shortly after, to take advantage of the blood glucose and lipid spike associated with eating.

Too much berberine at once can result in stomach upset, cramping, and diarrhea.
 
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So capsules would be ideal?
dear god yes... If you get this taste in your mouth just once, you will never forget. its awful and last foreeevvvvveeeerrrr
 
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I'm partial to agmatine simply because i've used it for so long, and seemingly with good results. Berberine, however, is very solid.
 
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I second agmatine. So many benefits along with being a great gda
 

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Berberine, Na-Rala, and Agmatine are all good choices.
 
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dear god yes... If you get this taste in your mouth just once, you will never forget. its awful and last foreeevvvvveeeerrrr
This, bulk NAC and bulk EGCg are all up there for vomiting experiences I've had lol.





Also, yes, agmatine is awesome. I take 500mg upon waking daily and also get another 500mg in my pre-workout, so I actually end up at 1g/day most of the time.
 
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Any point in taking Na-R-Ala pre meal without any carbs?
 
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Per Examine.com: The standard dose of berberine is 900-2,000mg a day, divided into three to four doses. Berberine should be taken with a meal, or shortly after, to take advantage of the blood glucose and lipid spike associated with eating. Too much berberine at once can result in stomach upset, cramping, and diarrhea.
yes standard dosing has been 500mg 3x a day and dropped to 300mg 3x a day if stomach upset
 
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Per Examine.com: The standard dose of berberine is 900-2,000mg a day, divided into three to four doses. Berberine should be taken with a meal, or shortly after, to take advantage of the blood glucose and lipid spike associated with eating. Too much berberine at once can result in stomach upset, cramping, and diarrhea.
I still say 30 min prior to meal or with meal not after

And for inhibition of weight gain 30 min prior is ideal
 
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I would agree with Berberine (although the taste is unbearable) and wish NP would get Yellow Gold back in stock!

Following would be Agmatine and Na-R-ALA.
 
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Can anybody elaborate/help me make sense of what I've read about berberine potentially being genotoxic? "Mechanism study of goldenseal-associated DNA damage." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23747414 and "Genotoxicity of the isoquinoline alkaloid berberine in prokaryotic and eukaryotic organisms." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7681536
 
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Agree with a number of previous posters Berberine, dependant on dosage it can have a number of beneficial effects.
 
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Na-Rala for me. I'm actually looking for some bulk because Nutra never has it.
 

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Sleep is deeper? What dose? I may try this.
I tried 1 cap SSV2 from Genomyx, which I believe is around 150mg Na-R-ALA. It made sleep deeper for me, which I hear may be because of increase in GH release.
 

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How would you guys rate Apple cider vinegar? Just to be really cheap, I've used it when I had no GDA
 

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Berberine is #1 IMO. Na-R-ALA is up there, so is the oft forgotten agmatine (which is actually selective)
 

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Any brands you would recommend that sell berberine solo?
I'm using Swanson brand. 400mg Berberine HCL per cap. Very convenient. A quick search on the internet should turn up many other choices.
 

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Berberine is #1 IMO. Na-R-ALA is up there, so is the oft forgotten agmatine (which is actually selective)
why not just use metformin? it's cheap and readily available online.

btw, check your email!
 

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R-ala for me as well. This stuff just flat out works for me before a heavy carb ladened meal.
 

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Question..for those who take R-ala or NA-R-Ala..how much do you guys take before a heavy carb meal?

Curious.....
 
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Gynemma Sylvestre hands down. One of the few supplements I have come to think has actual value in certain scenarios. I KNOW it works based on a simple blood glucose meter. I have used it to enter ketosis faster as well as to prevent insulin resistance when using insulin.
 
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I think we all miss Recompadrol
 

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