Low Carbers: Supps?

[Whacked]

Read this article and thought it was cool. Figured I'd pass it on.

Low Carb Diet Supplements

He mentions Glutamine. I know that's a supp that is laughed off around here but for low carbers, does this guy have a point?

 

[NomZ]

If you're training for performance, don't know why you would go low-carb.

 

[Driven2lift]

If you're training for performance, don't know why you would go low-carb.

Not an issue for everyone,
But I agree for many

 

[Jiigzz]

Read this article and thought it was cool. Figured I'd pass it on.

Low Carb Diet Supplements

He mentions Glutamine. I know that's a supp that is laughed off around here but for low carbers, does this guy have a point?

Does he have any references? Glutamine is generally laughed off as it has absorption issues.

 

[Whacked]

Sorry guys. I forgot the link

http://www.bengreenfieldfitness.com/2012/08/low-carb-diet-supplements/

 

[LeanEngineer]

I agree. A lot of people say glutamine doesnt do crap but for how cheap it is and the potential recovery help i add an additional 10g to each of my protein shakes. I think its worth it and its in almost every protein powder.

 

[Driven2lift]

I agree. A lot of people say glutamine doesnt do crap but for how cheap it is and the potential recovery help i add an additional 10g to each of my protein shakes. I think its worth it and its in almost every protein powder.

Just that so little of it actually makes it muscle tissue

Discussed and rectified with our Synerglute

The study is a glimmer glutamine may return

 

[Whacked]

This Physician suggests it too for low carb diets

http://www.drdeborahmd.com/low-carb-weight-loss

 

[Whacked]

AND ......here

http://www.poliquingroup.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/1118/Thirteen_Incredibly_Practical_Ways_to_Eliminate_Ca.aspx

 

[Jiigzz]

It depends on what sources they used. Poliquin is horrible for supplement advice.

It would be beneficial if it could be used where it is needed but unfortunately it just isnt. Havent looked into it in a low carb context though

 

[Whacked]

Agreed. I will be polite and just say that I have not enjoyed a ton of his articles.

 

[JudoJosh]

glutamine has been shown to be beneficial in restoring glycogen stores post workout, which might be advantageous to people on low carb diets.

In the liver glutamine is converted to glucose via trans-animation, and this glucose is then used to refill glycogen strores

 

[Admin]

I used to the most anti-glutamine person there is....and still am for younger people, but I also think there might be something to it in older individuals in terms of recovery (over 35-40).

 

[NoAddedHmones]

I used to the most anti-glutamine person there is....and still am for younger people, but I also think there might be something to it in older individuals in terms of recovery (over 35-40).

Actually find it very helpful when my IBD flares up.

 

[Whacked]

glutamine has been shown to be beneficial in restoring glycogen stores post workout, which might be advantageous to people on low carb diets.

In the liver glutamine is converted to glucose via trans-animation, and this glucose is then used to refill glycogen strores

Thanks Josh

But if on a strict keto, what would be the purpose?!? Once keto-adapted, glycogen stores become useless - no?

 

[JudoJosh]

Thanks Josh

But if on a strict keto, what would be the purpose?!? Once keto-adapted, glycogen stores become useless - no?

No, glycogen is still used as a fuel source. Being keto-adapted results in some shifts in what substrate is used, but glucose certainly still plays a huge role.

 

[Jiigzz]

glutamine has been shown to be beneficial in restoring glycogen stores post workout, which might be advantageous to people on low carb diets.

In the liver glutamine is converted to glucose via trans-animation, and this glucose is then used to refill glycogen strores

Ah thanks JJ! Helpful as always!!

 

[JudoJosh]

I believe there are a few mouse papers and a human one showing the glycogen refill rate being influenced by glutamine

 

[JudoJosh]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10368336

Adel has some good write ups on this as well as some on other glutamine papers

http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2013/09/glutamine-better-glucose-source-than.html
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2012/06/new-role-for-glutamine-in-protein.html
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2012/11/chronic-high-dose-bcaa-supplementation.html

 

[Whacked]

No, glycogen is still used as a fuel source. Being keto-adapted results in some shifts in what substrate is used, but glucose certainly still plays a huge role.

Good stuff Josh. Thanks

Almost wondering now if this would make a decent pre-training supp now too.

 

[NomZ]

glutamine has been shown to be beneficial in restoring glycogen stores post workout, which might be advantageous to people on low carb diets.

In the liver glutamine is converted to glucose via trans-animation, and this glucose is then used to refill glycogen strores

Why bother consuming glutamine if you're a low-carber when it's just going to be used in gluconeogenesis? Am I missing something, or is that the reason?

 

[JudoJosh]

Nope, that is why. Well at least that's what I'm guessing the mechanisim is with glutamine replenishing glycogen stores. Why did it out preform glucose in the study, beats me. But for a low carb guy who is getting in very little amounts of CHO, glutamine might be useful in this regard.

 

[EMPIREMIND]

glutamine has been shown to be beneficial in restoring glycogen stores post workout, which might be advantageous to people on low carb diets.

In the liver glutamine is converted to glucose via trans-animation, and this glucose is then used to refill glycogen strores

Ive heard this as well.