any otc GH supplements work?

jwinak82 · Apr 19, 2015

Also what supplements aside from multi vitamin, fish oil, joint sup ect do you guys think an aging athlete should take. I'm not looking to get big, I compete in a sport and I can't put on to much weight. I'm pretty open minded when it comes to sups. Some stats and what I'm taking now. 33, male, 5'6", 150 lean. On top of the basics taking Daa, Forma Stanzol and nano genin/5a-hydroxy-laxogenin. I'm just giving the nano genin a shot, I wasn't able to find much on it, but it seems like it would be safe and if its trash I'm only out 50 bucks. This is my first post so don't rip me a new one.

hvactech · Apr 19, 2015

D3 and zma work wonders... for me atleast

AntM1564 · Apr 19, 2015

Yes, they do work, but do not think they will yeild the results that real HGH has.

From my experience, HGH supplements help you relax and get a nice, deep, restful sleep. As a result, recovery is better which helps in the gym and also in other aspects of life. Due to the increased recovery, one can do more volume in the gym if they feel so, or not feel as beat up as they normally would. Some good suggestions are Growth Factor XT, ErogBolic, and HGH4UP

Danes · Apr 19, 2015

jwinak82 said:
Also what supplements aside from multi vitamin, fish oil, joint sup ect do you guys think an aging athlete should take. I'm not looking to get big, I compete in a sport and I can't put on to much weight. I'm pretty open minded when it comes to sups. Some stats and what I'm taking now. 33, male, 5'6", 150 lean. On top of the basics taking Daa, Forma Stanzol and nano genin/5a-hydroxy-laxogenin. I'm just giving the nano genin a shot, I wasn't able to find much on it, but it seems like it would be safe and if its trash I'm only out 50 bucks. This is my first post so don't rip me a new one.

If you have a nice sister for me, i will help you

SNS growth factor xt is good one

jwinak82 · Apr 19, 2015

Thanks for the tips. A sister is a strange bargaining tool for advice. I don't have one I traded her off for some advice on radiator repair.

ELROCK · Apr 19, 2015

jwinak82 said:
Thanks for the tips. A sister is a strange bargaining tool for advice. I don't have one I traded her off for some advice on radiator repair.

Lmao

mw1 · Apr 19, 2015

Growth Factor is the hands down best gh formula currently available

Quads_of_Stee · Apr 19, 2015

otc GH usually works by helping the user achieve a deeper and more fulfilling night of sleep, an indirect way of increasing GH. There are a lot on the market but I would look for ones with L-dopa and zma as it works amazing. EvoMuse sleephoria, Growth Factor XT are two that I would recommend for sure

Danes · Apr 19, 2015

jwinak82 said:
Thanks for the tips. A sister is a strange bargaining tool for advice. I don't have one I traded her off for some advice on radiator repair.

Damn lol

Jiigzz · Apr 19, 2015

AntM1564 said:
Yes, they do work, but do not think they will yeild the results that real HGH has.

From my experience, HGH supplements help you relax and get a nice, deep, restful sleep. As a result, recovery is better which helps in the gym and also in other aspects of life. Due to the increased recovery, one can do more volume in the gym if they feel so, or not feel as beat up as they normally would. Some good suggestions are Growth Factor XT, ErogBolic, and HGH4UP

This sums It up very nicely. Great suggestions too. I echo the growth factor XT for recovery as well

jwinak82 · Apr 20, 2015

Quads_of_Stee said:
otc GH usually works by helping the user achieve a deeper and more fulfilling night of sleep, an indirect way of increasing GH. There are a lot on the market but I would look for ones with L-dopa and zma as it works amazing. EvoMuse sleephoria, Growth Factor XT are two that I would recommend for sure

thanks for the suggestions, I will defiantly look into both of them.

Tabascoonall · Apr 20, 2015

they work but it will NOT compare to real GH, growth factor has been great to me and i would recommend it to anyone not looking to get real the real deal. That being said it is a day and night difference between the two but Growth factor does work and you will enjoy it if tried

The_Old_Guy · Apr 20, 2015

IMO, any supplement using a combination of Mucuna Puriens and Safed Musli, is going off of a study that had a total of 15 (IIRC) participants, where only TWO hyper-responded to that combination in relation to GH. If my 8th grade math isn't failing me, that means you have about a 13.8% chance of responding. If you have extra money, sure. And the two compounds have other benefits (libido, etc,,,)

But I would concentrate on cheap sleep aids like Magnesium, Melatonin, 5-HTP, Kava Tea, etc... if you need help sleeping/staying asleep. If you go comatose in 5 min, and stay that way - you don't need anything

Bone growth and fat burning are the two most common effects of GH, correct? Are these effects seen with these products?

bigead · Apr 21, 2015

mk-677?

hvactech · Apr 22, 2015

bigead said:
mk-677?

Ostarine?

warbird01 · Apr 22, 2015

Quads_of_Stee said:
otc GH usually works by helping the user achieve a deeper and more fulfilling night of sleep, an indirect way of increasing GH. There are a lot on the market but I would look for ones with L-dopa and zma as it works amazing. EvoMuse sleephoria, Growth Factor XT are two that I would recommend for sure

This. No OTC supp is going to come close to synthetic GH but supplements like Growth Factor XT can help with sleep and recovery.

liftandeat · Apr 22, 2015

1 mg of melatonin. Cheap as dirt and will work just as good as any other "GH booster"

Rostam · Apr 22, 2015

GABA, Mucuna Puriens

Auslifter · Apr 22, 2015

they won't make you look like phil heath if that's what your thinking. but ChloroTest and DopaDex is a great stack

gives great sleep, improves skin, libido, improves recovery and helps with endurance. i loved both, and want to get some more soon

bigead · Apr 22, 2015

hvactech said:
Ostarine?

Ibutamoren (MK-677, L-163,191) is a drug which acts as a potent, orally active growth hormone secretagogue,[1][2] mimicking the GH stimulating action of the endogenous hormone ghrelin.[3][4] It has been demonstrated to increase the release of, and produces sustained increases in plasma levels of several hormones including growth hormone and IGF-1, but without affecting cortisol levels.[5] It is currently under development as a potential treatment for reduced levels of these hormones, such as in growth hormone deficient children or elderly adults,[6][7][8] and human studies have shown it to increase both muscle mass and bone mineral density,[9][10] making it a promising therapy for the treatment of frailty in the elderly.[11][12] It also alters metabolism of body fat and so may have application in the treatment of obesity.[13][14]

Borrowed from wiki

EMPIREMIND · Apr 22, 2015

Melatonan and L dopa treat me right. Loved BPS endosurge turbo at 3 caps before bed.

Also cant front and as much i dont wanna say it, but arnold iron dreams was pretty good to me as well. Next on my list is growth factor for sure

Sean1332 · Apr 22, 2015

Controlled Labs Blue Growth would be great. Effective ingredients and you'll gain some better sleep and recovery.

Joedoubledose · Apr 26, 2015

No ones mentioned L-arginine before sleep?....

mw1 · Apr 26, 2015

OP I can send you a sample of Growth Factor XT if you like? just pm me your shipping info

jwinak82 · Apr 26, 2015

Are you serious? Can you send me a free sample!? I love free samples!

mw1 said:
OP I can send you a sample of Growth Factor XT if you like? just pm me your shipping info

kbayne · Apr 26, 2015

Chlorotest + DopaDex or Growth Factor XT

jwinak82 · Apr 26, 2015

okay this is going to sound really stupid but, how do I pm?

The_Old_Guy · Apr 27, 2015

You can't right now - seems PMs are down for maintenance - have been for 2 days. I have one I can't get to...

JudoJosh · Apr 27, 2015

kbayne said:
Chlorotest + DopaDex or Growth Factor XT

Tried and true ingredients

CJNator · Apr 27, 2015

Growth factor better the Mass HGH? Also agmatine is good too.

bigead · Apr 27, 2015

Been on mk 677 for a week and its awesome.

Joedoubledose · Apr 27, 2015

What effects are you seeing besides better sleep

bigead · Apr 27, 2015

Skin quality and some stregnth. Stregnth may be placebo

alwaysfirst · Apr 27, 2015

Powerfull is pretty good, doing 1 cap with Alphamax right now and sleeping great!
Not sure about the "hgh" effect but sleep is good

Misfit28 · Apr 27, 2015

CJNator said:
Growth factor better the Mass HGH? Also agmatine is good too.

Mass HGH is a prop blend, so you have no idea how much of each ingredient is actually in there. Growth Factor XT is non-prop and also includes the extract %, so you know exactly what you are getting.

CJNator · Apr 27, 2015

Misfit28 said:
Mass HGH is a prop blend, so you have no idea how much of each ingredient is actually in there. Growth Factor XT is non-prop and also includes the extract %, so you know exactly what you are getting.

Oh ok thanks! Forgot it was a prop blend.

Misfit28 · Apr 27, 2015

CJNator said:
Oh ok thanks! Forgot it was a prop blend.

No problem, man! I used Mass HGH in the past, and it helped with sleep and recovery as well. I just think that Growth Factor XT is much more effective.

I just like to know what is in my supps whenever possible

AntM1564 · Apr 27, 2015

bigead said:
Skin quality and some stregnth. Stregnth may be placebo

An increase in strength could occur doe to an increase in recovery.

liftandeat · Apr 27, 2015

I've used growth factor, powerful, and mass HGH.

And didn't notice anything. Melatonin did more than any of them. And a fraction of the cost

Quads_of_Stee · Apr 28, 2015

liftandeat said:
I've used growth factor, powerful, and mass HGH.

And didn't notice anything. Melatonin did more than any of them. And a fraction of the cost

did you use melatonin with them? If not, how was the quality of sleep.

I personally don't like sleep supps because you have to keep increasing the melatonin dose eventually with habitual use

Blergs · Apr 28, 2015

jwinak82 said:
Also what supplements aside from multi vitamin, fish oil, joint sup ect do you guys think an aging athlete should take. I'm not looking to get big, I compete in a sport and I can't put on to much weight. I'm pretty open minded when it comes to sups. Some stats and what I'm taking now. 33, male, 5'6", 150 lean. On top of the basics taking Daa, Forma Stanzol and nano genin/5a-hydroxy-laxogenin. I'm just giving the nano genin a shot, I wasn't able to find much on it, but it seems like it would be safe and if its trash I'm only out 50 bucks. This is my first post so don't rip me a new one.

D3 and maybe a peptide combo of ModGRF 1-29 and GHRP-2 100mcg 2-4x a day for 4-6 months

liftandeat · Apr 30, 2015

Quads_of_Stee said:
did you use melatonin with them? If not, how was the quality of sleep. I personally don't like sleep supps because you have to keep increasing the melatonin dose eventually with habitual use

I haven't had to raise it I stay at 1-3 grams depending how long I wanna sleep. The thing I feel most with melatonin is I wake up easier and more refreshed

jwinak82 · May 6, 2015

Blergs said:
D3 and maybe a peptide combo of ModGRF 1-29 and GHRP-2 100mcg 2-4x a day for 4-6 months

I'll look into this combo, do you think it would be good for anti aging at this dose?

kboxer7 · Dec 21, 2015

New study shows Tribulus may increase the availability of FREE Igf-1.

http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2015/12/tribulus-is-good-for-something-125-gday.html?platform=hootsuite&m=1

The_Old_Guy · Dec 21, 2015

kboxer7 said:
New study shows Tribulus may increase the availability of FREE Igf-1.

http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2015/12/tribulus-is-good-for-something-125-gday.html?platform=hootsuite&m=1

Danes I see a business opportunity! We need a supplier for Pronova Biocare, Sweden Tribulus

There's no way the average consumer can be sure the Trib they get contains the "right" stuff - but I see a resurgence of Trib ads coming

Danes · Dec 21, 2015

The_Old_Guy said:
Danes I see a business opportunity! We need a supplier for Pronova Biocare, Sweden Tribulus There's no way the average consumer can be sure the Trib they get contains the "right" stuff - but I see a resurgence of Trib ads coming

I will look at this one after Workout.
Btw, Tongkat Ali increases IGF1 levels too

ericool007 · Dec 21, 2015

Ghar1ne actually works, it's kinda otc kinda gray market but anything else that is administered orally is basically wasting money.

Danes · Dec 21, 2015

ericool007 said:
Ghar1ne actually works, it's kinda otc kinda gray market but anything else that is administered orally is basically wasting money.

Are you sure?
What If I told you there is a natural oral GHRP/Ghrelin mimetic which can secrete GH/IGF1 thru Ghrelin increase ?

ericool007 · Dec 21, 2015

Danes said:
Are you sure?
What If I told you there is a natural oral GHRP/Ghrelin mimetic which can secrete GH/IGF1 thru Ghrelin increase ?

I'm talking stuff you can buy otc still

Danes · Dec 21, 2015

ericool007 said:
I'm talking stuff you can buy otc still

It is possible to buy it

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